What's your favourite range? And why?

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  1. ST1Doppelganger

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    I also favor using the opponents entry because it's like a head on collision when they run in to the strike.

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    And my primary art is an aiki art, so it just feels right to have them bring some of what I need.
     
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    No No No you are suppose to hug and talk it out with your opponent if your primary art is aiki. LOL just messing I've been taking Tenshin Aikido for the past 4 years after relocating and not being able to find a Kung Fu instructor I wanted to learn from.

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    Negative range, when I strike my opponent so hard my fist goes through their body and comes out the other side.



    JK, conventional punching range
     
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    Oh, I’ll hug him, all right. Much easier to do a takedown from there. :angelic:
     
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    Yes the clinch is a much easier way to get a lock or throw compared to plucking a punch out of the air like Mr miagi plucking flies out if the air in karate kid.

    Personally I use my Aikido and Judo techniques in the clinch and grappling range but will say that the footwork and deflections have added quite a bit flavor to my outside striking range.

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    Being I don't have trapping or ground skills, I prefer to keep my range in the striking distance. I like to use the jab and move in/out of the pocket quick. Getting any closer is a risk for me as I could be taken down easily. One of the things I want to learn this year is how to get out of various choke holds and learn some basic ground skills to help avoid being taken down and also how to get up as fast as possible.
     
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    I like fighting in close, but my favorite range is just out of his reach. That's the dream scenario. Because my best skill is closing distance. I've found that most folks flinch when you close quickly. I like working off the flinch.
     
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    It is all the rage for a lot of street styles. Because they can employ head butts knees and elbows.

    I have been in to many meat grinder fights to think it is cool to get in close and use my mad skillz.

    There is this idea in fighting that people forget that all these really dangerous techniques can also be thrown by the other guy.
     
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    The clinch range can be all strikers nightmare.

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    I do a lot of striking, and I find it troublesome to go all in and trade blows. I have long reach so I usually use my jabs to keep people away and I just try to target specific points in the body from there. This is especially effective against people with shorter range as they will always try to get in real close and trade body shots and uppercuts.
     
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    I am learning to fight like an old man these days. All pressure and gravity.

    When I think aiki. I think scramble. Which i Generally cant win.

     
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    I have a hard time translating what most folks seem to define as aiki into ground work. The easy flow you see (with patience and less effort) in really good BJJ (like watching Rickson against a white belt) is what I think of as "ground aiki". It's a bit too patient, really, for defense. It works really well if someone is determined to grab you and do something grappling-y, but not so well when they decide to hit (assuming they are any good at that). Some of the same issue I have with trying to focus too much on aiki for defensive use. As a principle, it's useful - but if it's the focus of your training, you're going to have some big gaps.
     
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    The closer the better, or, using your terminology trapping or grappling. I am extremely short (5 ft even), stocky, with short arms and legs. Anything outside trapping range puts me in striking range for others, and outside of the striking range for me. Since I am a terrible runner and can't just dodge them forever, I do my best to get in up close and personal. It's good psychological warfare too - people don't expect something like this from someone who looks like me.
     
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    I don't like to think of the ranges as kicking, striking, trapping, and grappling as they can overlap and each range is not strictly restricted to the techniques that the range is named by. For instance, its possible to use strikes while in grappling range. Instead I like to think of it like this. The longest range is "out of range" in which your opponent is too far away to hit with any techniques, next is "long range" where you can hit your opponent with kicks, then "mid range" where you can use hand strikes, and finally "close range" where you can use elbows and knees and where you would grapple with your opponent. This would also include ground fighting, where you're both rolling on the ground. I don't really have a favorite range I think its important to be able to fight at all ranges and to be able to control the ranges for maximum effectiveness.
     
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    I tend to refer to the ranges as:
    • out there (out of range)
    • kicking distance (full-range kick)
    • hand/wrist (in line with the wrist)
    • elbow (in line with the elbow)
    • shoulder (loosely at the shoulder)
    • "right there" (a.k.a. "kissing distance" and when behind the shoulder "creepy kissing distance").
     
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    In the reality of fighting having a favorite anything can be dangerous.
    Distance will be predicated by what weapon/s are involved.
    I like to use the proper distance (range) for the tool/s utilized.

    That said my favorites:
    Tactical Shooting Range. Because I have a lot of fun doing tactical shooting.
    Tactical range.jpg

    Cooking. This one in particular because is fits well in our kitchen and my wife & I both enjoy eating well cooked meals.
    Smeg range.jpg
     
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    I WANT that range. Six burners. That is sexy.
     
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    Just don't get the two confused.
     
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    And it's awesome to cook on also.123
     

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