What do you think of Jake Mace?

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  1. pdg

    pdg Senior Master

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    Actually, you didn't make that clear at all.

    You titled the thread "What do you think of Jake Mace" and went on to say:

    Which really in no way appears to be a clear question of "judge his martial arts". It's more like clarifying which Jake Mace you're talking about.

    It's like if I say "what do you think of John?"

    And someone asks "which John?"

    So I say "you know, John in accounts"


    Nothing in that conversation implies that I want to know what they think of his accounting prowess.
     
  2. gpseymour

    gpseymour MT Moderator Staff Member

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    Yeah, and @Buka won't put up with that kind of silliness! (Unless he's involved, of course.)
     
  3. gpseymour

    gpseymour MT Moderator Staff Member

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    Oh, and no religious discussion.
     
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    Ehh.. there really isn't any controversy. He's really good at spinning a staff..and gardening.
     
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  5. pdg

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    That reminds me actually, I wanted to watch more of his staff spinning vids.

    I have no clue whether it's any good or practical and I care not a jot - it just looks fun and that's all I'm concerned with.
     
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    Well I guess it could be useful. Mount some angled fins on the ends and you could generate electricity.
     
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    Umm... hello? I post on a MARTIAL ARTS forum and ask what you think about a MARTIAL ARTS teacher. I think this makes it obvious what I want to know.
     
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    No, it doesn't.

    I still have no clue what you actually want to know, because you really haven't asked any other question apart from "what do you think of Jake Mace?"

    Umm... Hello? I told you what I think.

    Care to ask a more specific question?
     
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  9. amateur

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    Well, a mod said 'no bashing/fraud exposing'. I don't know whether it counts as bashing and I never implied that Jake is a fraud (even if he's not that knowledgeable a teacher, this doesn't mean he's a fraud). On youtube, there are commenters who portray him as a god as well as ones who think he lacks technique/knowledge, so I'm confused. I want to know whether you think it's worth trying to learn something from his videos.
     
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    Buddy relax would ya
     
  11. lklawson

    lklawson Senior Master

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    Don't get your panties in a knot.

    You weren't really all that clear in what you are asking. Just "what do you think?" No questions about anything specific.
     
  12. pdg

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    I've learned some stuff from his videos...

    A few things I've learned a slightly better way to do something.

    A few things I've discovered how not to do something.

    The key thing to remember is that you cannot learn solely from any video - they can be a fantastic supplemental aid to learning but you either need feedback or a knowledge base in place to assess the content yourself.
     
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    We discuss a lot more than martial arts on here. Thread swerve is almost the norm.
     
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    I think part of that answer depends what you want to learn for. If you want to have some fun with a staff, he's got some video instruction that will help you do some fun spins and such. I have doubts that his staff work would be helpful for fighting, but I'm no staff expert, myself, so I'd leave that judgment to folks with more knowledge than me.

    My understanding is that some of what he says about Wing Chun isn't accurate to the principles of Wing Chun, as most practitioners understand it. That doesn't necessarily make it bad to do (though I've seen a few things I consider just bad ideas). It doesn't even really necessarily make him wrong about them being WC, since there are some branches of WC that are different from the mainstream...so, maybe what he teaches should simply be considered non-mainstream WC. But I also don't know much about WC, so...

    My final assessment is pretty close to what some folks said initially. He has some interesting videos, is pretty charismatic and dynamic, is in great shape, and has some fitness stuff that seems reasonable. I can find some useful stuff in his martial arts videos. How much I discard could be due to him teaching badly, or me just not grasping much of what he does because it's pretty foreign to what I do.
     
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