Ways to escape without fighting?

Discussion in 'General Self Defense' started by First Action, Feb 4, 2013.

  1. First Action

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    Hi Chris,

    Thanks for your comments

    I saw the post in the other thread first so I responded there..

    Just a couple of things.

    1. Thanks for bringing up discussion on the post. This is the kind of thing I was going for from the start. As soon as I finish writing this Im going to edit it thanks to Cyricuses insights

    2. The sight was always that pretty, its just that there was a server problem over the last couple of days. Actually, we're still working on it :). Also, the content gets changed gradually. For instance, the vids where ****, so Im slowly erasing them, I get comments on posts, so Ill change or erase them, I learn new stuff so new posts get added and etc

    If you want to leanr more about how a blog works... well, Im not an expert on that either (thats right, I said either)

    3. I shut down the whole youtube channel. You (not just you mind you) were right. The vids were a fukn disgrace.

    4. The last point Ill have to quote you on..

    Didnt you hear? Thanks to this forum (and others) Ive realised that what ive come up with is not anywhere near self defense. Its FASD Fight Training. Maybe its just cause you havent seen the changes on the home page yet -- although if you do have alook, dont be too critical because changes are still getting made, and changing content takes time.

    But if you want to post more of my posts, please do. It seems to be creating some great discussions and insights..

    Thanks again
    FASD
     
  2. Chris Parker

    Chris Parker Grandmaster

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    I'm through sugar coating things here.

    You have no ability for fighting.

    You have no skill.

    You have no experience or education.

    You have no understanding.

    Taking other people's experience (and not understanding what they're saying) in order to bolster your own material is ill-advised, damn dangerous, potentially fraudulent and flat out disrespectful and rude.

    Unless this new understanding comes from either your teachers (who can monitor how well you understand it), or your own (fully understood) experience, you should absolutely not be using it to change your website and blog. All it shows is that you have tried to position yourself as a teacher of material/information/education to do with handling violence with absolutely nothing to back it up, and are so desperate to hang onto that idea of yourself that you think it's fine to mine forums for other people's ideas and knowledge, as yours is non-existant. Don't do that. It's damn offensive.

    Got it?

    Oh, and the comment about "the first part was good from a business perspective" I personally find damn offensive. So you know.
     
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  3. Cyriacus

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    I for one noticed you make that change. So, before i respond, its First Action Self Defense, but its not self defense, its fight training. Ok then, FAFT it is.

    Its rubbish fight training and youd be better off without training at all.

    Dont ask me to substantiate that. Its already been done a million times, and changing the context of rubbish doesnt stop it from being rubbish.
     
  4. First Action

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    Really? It seemed like you were through with that a few posts ago.

    The middle part is just a repeated opinion.. yes, I understand what your saying..

    Sorry. No really. It's not my intention to offend you or anyone else.

    I had a feeling this would come up..
    1. The fight training doesn't encompass my views on Self Defense
    2. I've already established the name.. ie its too much trouble to change

    Thanks
     
  5. Chris Parker

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    See your other thread for responses to this... but really? "It's just too much trouble to change"? So you're happy not presenting yourself accurately, instead bordering on fraud? Really? Dude, if I had any respect for how you were dealing with this, it's all gone now.
     
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    Yeah... ok... you said you might end up here in the states at some point.

    Don't.

    Why?

    If you put yourself in a location where you will encounter real, serious gangbangers & try to use this pap:

    You will end up back home... in a box... if anybody pays to have you shipped back... if you're found & indentified at all...
     
  7. Chris Parker

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    Right. So, thanks to the mis-type in your Chinese New Year thread (where you wished all the members of selfprotection.com a happy Chinese New Year...), I visited the site in question to see how you got on there. And, frankly, it's just more of the same. Experienced people telling you that your ideas are dangerous, badly thought out, based in a lack of education and experience, and that you really shouldn't be presenting them publicly where people will get hurt. You, again, decided that that was really just down to a difference of theories (your theories and others, implying that both were equally valid.... here's a clue: they aren't. Yours are desperately flawed), as opposed to the cold, hard, reality that you don't know what you're talking about. Every post you made there gave that result, you whined, complained that you were going to be banned, and refused to take on board what you were being told. You gave vagaries as to your background, when informed that the forum frowned on anonymity and were invited to say who you are, and give some background, still didn't actually do that, instead giving the vague "some arts and lots of traveling" answer, eventually stating that your martial arts education amounts to (at most) "3/4 of the way through the systems"... and not understanding even what running through a system in it's entirety is. You were low-mid belt, never even shodan in anything (oh, and you mis-spell ninjutsu each time, let alone the various other arts you get wrong).

    I have lost all hope for you.
     
  8. MJS

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    Another question: It seems to me, that while you've listed numerous arts, you really haven't devoted any serious time to training, ie: spenidng more than a few months before having to move and start over? If that's the case, then IMHO, I'd refrain from teaching anyone anything, and instead, focus on something that you enjoy, and devote alot of time to that. IMO, if someone spent only 3mos, for example, how much do you really think you're going to offer that person??
     
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    I have to admit, inj my mind, someone says fight training, I automatically think one of two things, it is training for a sporting combat match or training for self defense. The advice offered on the blog and in a couple of threads here make me believe niether is happening here. So what difference does it make what you call yourself?

    The way you present yourself and your information is dangerous to a beginning or ignorant student. You are not the only one effected by the words of "advice" you are putting out there. Someone might actually take to heart some of the more wrong headed stuff and get themselves hurt. When you put yourself out there as an expert on the application of violence, this is the resposibility you shoulder. You are failing miserably at this responsibility. The fact that an innocent's well being could be at risk if the follow your training or advice, should scare the hell out of you. If it doesn't, it says tons about your true motivations for printing this stuff and it isn't saying anything flattering. Get a real traing foundation under a qualified instructor, then share your knowledge when you are confident in your own training and the ability to shoulder the responsibility of being a self defense teacher. Until then you are playing at a fantasy held together by the thinnest of constructs.
     
  10. First Action

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    Thanks for your concen for my wellbeing. Actually, Ive been to the States a fw times already. I dare say Ive experienced more of it that you. And I am a bit of an adventure traveller so I've seen my fare share of dangerous situations.

    Just off the top of my head, I've been held at knife point in a hotel in NYC, been to 'gangbanger' parties that have gone wrong in LA, had front row seats to bar fights in the south, been held against my will in China, been in gangfights in Australia, been the target of violent racial attacks (Aust and US), been drugged in Indonesia, aided political activists in the UK against the EDL, held at gunpoint at border crossings in latin america... etc and I'm still alive, and relatively unharmed.

    So, again, thanks for your concern, but you can rest assured that I'm ok to take care of myself, as well as those that choose to travel with me.

    Just as a note - I/we 'escape' 90% of the time (I havent done any actual calculations, but its a fair estimate) by use of non-violent methods.

    FYI. I am no longer going to monitor this thread, but if you really want to further discuss you can PM me.
     
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    Please see firstactionselfdefense.net/exp.html

    Thanks
     
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    this was meant to be taken in jest.. (perhaps I should have included a smiley face or something). the point you should have focused on is

    ie, the term self defense in FASD covers 'much more than fighting'. This is explained on the homepage.
     
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    The fight training is ludicrous, and you have no clue on self defence. Is that better?
     
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    I doubt that. In fact, I doubt much of what you said short of pulling off the tube or movies, but what ever you need to tell yourself to keep your daydreams continuing, Mr Mitty ... well, ok.
     
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    I don't know the OP and I don't care for his statements on SD. However, I thought fraud busting was against the terms of service on this site. I see three pages worth of fraudbusing, unprovoked insults and flames. And none of them from the OP.

    If this guy is violating site rules, report it. If he isn't, and if you simply cannot stand what he says, ignore him and stop posting on the threads he starts.
     
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    Question:

    1) Unless I'm missing it, I'm not seeing how long you've devoted to physically training in any of these arts, under a qualified teacher.

    2) I take it aside from the book you were reading, you had no formal JKD training....but you opted instead, to attempt to teach yourself?
     
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    First Action--
    The hardest steps are the simple ones: empty your cup, find a good teacher, and practice. In that order. Good luck.


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    When I was a kid in high school, I had a really inspirational teacher. I remember one time when he was getting after the students for not applying themselves to the material, and concluded his scold by telling us that, "...learning is hard work. Really, it is. Just look around. That's why there are so many ignorant people in the world." to which I automatically replied, "Hey, that's not true. I really like learning." He looked me straight in the eye and calmly stated, "No Steve. You like knowing. But you are going to have to work a lot harder at learning if you ever want to get there."

    In other words, basically what we've all been telling First Action.123
     
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