*Bump* In the 1 1/2 years since I wrote this thread, I've realized a few things. I've since run into many TSD & a few Shotokan folks who do Bassai as I have learned it. I've yet to run into anyone outside the USCDKA who does Yumbee. I'm facinated by Last Fearner's words that the old ITF Encyclopedia has both forms in it. I'd be curious if anyone has done them.