Throwing

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  1. snake

    snake White Belt

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    can someone 10 stone throw someone 20 stone.
     
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    Tony Dismukes Senior Master

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    Yeah, but it's not particularly easy if the 20 stone person doesn't want to be thrown. In a real fight or competition it requires the 10 stone person to be a) really, really good and b) a whole lot better than the other guy.
     
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    Only if you have good technique
     
  4. Steve

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    Unless you know BJJ, in which case you would be a rolling stone.

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    Crickets.

    But yeah. Size matters a great deal. A big guy with mediocre technique can neutralize a small guy with good technique.
     
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    Yes, if they are more skilled. Weight does matter. I weigh about 12 stone, and my heaviest training partners have been around 21 stone. Mind you, most of my throws I wouldn't bother with on them, because it would be too risky to one or both of us. But there are certainly throws that are still good candidates. If they had been closer to my skill, they would have had an advantage, because weight helps in counters.
     
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    Awful, Steve. Truly awful.
     
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    If you know how to borrow your opponent's force. You have to give before you can take.

    A + B > A
     
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    Langenschwert Master Black Belt

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    Steve, you are a very, very bad man. Don't ever change.

    To the OP: Yes, one can. Most can't. Usually you're talking a two belt difference or more.
     
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    Buka Grandmaster

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    Wonderful, Steve, truly wonderful! Gather no moss, bro.
     
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    Don't encourage him!
     
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    JP3 Master Black Belt

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    Or if you get lucky. Usually, if you hit a throw on someone who outweighs you by 2x both were involved.
     
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    Yes, I can and have.
    I would agree if you are talking about throws being used in isolation, which they are of course not designed to be during combat. But with the right strike/strikes before hand I wouldn't envisage too many problems.
     
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