Sumo?

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  1. sinthetik_mistik

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    I didn't see a Sumo thread anywhere. I'm not an expert on it but I know there is a lot more to it than just two fat guys trying to bump each other out of the ring.
     
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    Is there?

    I mean, there's some Technique to it of course, but ultimately it's two fat guys trying to bump each other out of the ring.
     
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    like i said i'm no expert on it, and yes the objective is to push the opponent out of the ring... my former Muay Thai teacher was talking about it and a lot of the techniques that it incorporates... I mean in Japan it is and has been a pretty huge deal
     
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    here is a list of different methods of Sumo winning techniques, called Kimarite:
    Kimarite - Wikipedia
     
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    There's actually a whole lot more to it than "2 fat guys slamming into each other." The techniques are reminiscent of judo or jujutsu in many ways, though focused even more narrowly. And those guys play rough -- and keep going through some impressive injuries. Broken fingers are routine during a basho... and as things go on, they get more and more injuries.
     
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    Well, I think the fat is necessary for sumo. Also it's about not getting stumbled out of the ring.
     
  7. sinthetik_mistik

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    the reason Sumo wrestlers get fat is because there are no weight divisions. so getting as big as possible is beneficial. pre 20th century Sumo wrestlers were actually a lot smaller
     
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    Mongolian wrestling is very similar to sumo.
     
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    Lyoto machida has trained extensively in it and is he a big fat guy?
     
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    Show me a video of him competing in sumo. Anyone can train it, but to be successful you need to be massive.
     
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    There are some sumo techniques found in Daito ryu. Sumo is more than just what is done in modern competition.
     
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    I've always enjoyed watching Sumo on TV. They used to broadcast a lot of it out here, not so much any more. Or at least it's not on my current cable package.

    I find Sumo guys as big, strong men who can fight. As for fat......don't ever make the mistake of thinking a fat guy can't fight. Big mistake.
     
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    i saw a video where a Sumo wrestler PICKED UP his opponent and slammed him on the ground. I'm guessing the Sumo who got picked up weighed north of 400 pounds.
     
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    And look at Roy Big Country Nelson. A true fat guy. And, man, can that boy fight like the Dickens.
     
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    another example is Butterbean
     
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    Ah, yes, the Bean. I have a pic of Eric [Butterbean] somewhere. I might even know where it is. The Bean rocks.
     
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    Here's that pic of Butterbean I mentioned. Taken from the back seat of the car.

    ButterBean.jpg
    Look at that neck. That's a big old neck right there.
     
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    that was one big neck it took me minutesto figure out
     
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    Welcome to MartialTalk, Gladymwihaki7. Hope you enjoy it, bro. :)
     
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    heck yeah he does! I'll always remember when he knocked out Holyfield
     

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