You asked what was changed? Just watch the first clip and set, Jut Choi. It's basically a TWC version and not Pin Sun..... I didn't need to watch more than a few minutes to see that..... ---TWC doesn't have a Jut Choi set or that sequence of movements in any of its forms. So how can it be a "TWC version"? Keith, just be honest. You visited me on 2.5 occassions over a few years and then maybe a decade later you visited Marc a couple of times. Yes, a couple of weekends of training is learning something quickly. ---Sure. I'll be honest about that! But....how can you have a "0.5 occasion"? And when I visited Marc, Sifu Henry Mui himself stopped in at several points, talked to Marc about my progress, watched what I was doing, and gave his personal stamp of approval. Henry Mui signed my certificate, not Marc. And you are completely discounting the time and effort spent on training outside of those intense instructional sessions. Or the feedback given repeatedly over time to videos exchanged demonstrating progress. How else does having a "distant student" work? So you are willing to discount the teaching provided to every "distant student" of any teacher? Think about this, if the average person attended two or three classes per week, you essentially had two weeks of actual training over a decade. That's the totality of your Pin Sun experience even tho you seem to enjoy this facade you created about being an 'instructor under Mui'. ---Think about this, most people solidify what they know when they practice on their own. First hand instruction puts them on the path, but they have to put in the "flight time" of practice to make it their own. You seem to be so willing to discount over a decade of personal practice and development. My learning didn't stop just because I was not in your presence. In Mui's Martial Art Association you are ranked 'Jr Instructor' under Mark K. You were given permission to start a study group but actually have no permission to teach. Ten years ago you were doing the same nonsense. ---You are wrong. Nothing was said about being "only" a study group leader. No one required that I was going to be monitored or need to return for more training or any of that. Marc essentially welcomed me as a member of the family and told me I could come back any time if I desired. There were no requirements placed upon me. And I have never claimed to represent anyone but myself. But I will damn sure continue to include Henry Mui in my Pin Sun lineage chart when anyone asks. ---But if you want to air dirty laundry, let's talk about what happened ten years ago. I was your distant student...who you accepted as such....who you gave feedback and approval to based upon personal interaction and me sending video of myself and my training partner and our progress. You made me stick with just 4 San Sik for an entire year before you would show me anything else, despite the fact that I already had many years experience doing Ip Man Wing Chun. Then you showed me the next 6 San Sik that I would have to spend at least another year developing before you would show me more. That is not exactly "quickly learned." I liked to post in the forums then, just as I do now. But you didn't like me mentioning things about Pin Sun because you were very secretive about it and didn't want people to know any details. So you eventually told me you didn't want me to post in the forums at all. It was about that time that you started learning the I Chuan Chi Gung stuff. You demanded that all of your students also start learning that and to practice it daily. I was in medical school at the time and barely had time to practice my Pin Sun San Sik, let alone standing in Chi Gung for 20 to 30 minutes every day. I just did not see it as something I wanted to get into at the time. But you demanded that your students do this if they wanted to continue with the Wing Chun. Between me refusing to do the I Chuan and you not liking me revealing Pin Sun "secrets" on the forums we reached a mutual agreement to split. I attempted to keep it on friendly terms, but then for awhile every time I posted in the KFO forum you seemed to pop up and try to discount what I was saying in some way, even when it had nothing to do with Pin Sun. And anyone that has been around here in recent years knows I have defended by you and Pin Sun against negative comments and posts. Yet you still seem to think of me as an enemy because I split from you as my instructor after you became so controlling. And now, rather than saying I have taken my Pin Sun training in an interesting direction and wish me luck, you post to drag me down and make negative comments. Yeah, you are right. Some things never change!