Pain compliance techniques - yay or nay?

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  1. dvcochran

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    Yep. That has much more weight with the most recent of events. Not at all for things that occurred 200 years ago.
     
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    Amazing. I have to do some checking. All I can see is my statement of not being able to see my original post. Thanks for the feedback.
     
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    Over here it was an addidas tracksuit and a bum bag.
     
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    The cops in question are pretty decent. But they are also big dudes. The cops were unimpressed with the standard of training.
     
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    200? Look up Jim Crow. That wasn’t 200 years ago.
     
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    The big thing you need to ask yourself is, if you want a more professional police force with significantly better training and higher educational levels you need to pay them like professionals. With a few exceptions, policing is not a highly paid profession across most of the US. Do you support raising taxes to do this?

    All of this costs money. My experience many departments try and do the best they can with the resources they’re given. This is why I take particular issue with calls to “defund the police.” We can reallocate funds for things like mental health training but in no way should we remove money that would hinder police training.

    The issue I’m hearing in my neck of the woods now is that while outside training is great and definitely better than what officers are taught, you’re looking at possible criminal charges if you do something that wasn’t taught in the academy/official training. Everything is optics, and the average person has a Hollywood idea in their heads on what force and violence “should” look like.
     
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    I said earlier that I'm all for cops being paid more. Teachers and cops definitely deserve to be paid more than what they are.

    However, with higher pay there needs to be higher levels of professionalism and accountability.
     
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    Few would argue with that. I’d even suggest you raise the educational requirements since they’d be getting paid a better wage as well.
     
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    i think thats a false dilemma to be honest, the codt of policing in the US budget is minuscule , the cost of training them better would be less than miniscule, a cent a week on tax ?????,, maybe a lot, lot less than that

    nor do you really want intellectuals doing the job, just ordinary everyday folk that dont have personity disorders,
     
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    You guys are talking purely about politics, and not on topic at all. As a reminder, if you wish to talk about politics, there are other forums available for that.123
     
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