Hi everyone...
I'm training wing chun and I've recently started to learn to the lap-sau drill.
I have a few questions and I'm interested to hear what you guys have to say about this and how you do it in your linage...
Lap-sau without turning:
In my linage (which is a descentant of leung ting, but we do things more and more like wong sheung lung) we start by doing lap-sau without turning.
Also, the attacker (A from here on) leaves his non-attacking hand in wu-sau.
The defender (D from here on) makes a bong (without turning) the moment he feel the lap. D keeps his other hand in wu-sau position..
Now, we only do the lap-sau drill this way for a short period of time and it could be seen as a "dan-chi sau" exercise...
Lap-Sau with turning:
The next step is obviously to turn when doing bong-sau, to deflect the attack.
So, A will punch with his right, he'll get diagonal contact with D's right arm, do a lap-sau motion, while striking with his left arm. A will leave his right hand on D's arm/wrist.
D will (the moment he feels the lap) make a bong-sau and when he get contact with A's left arm (which is punching) he will turn and deflect.
The D will strike, get diagonal contact en the cycle reverse.
Now, I've seen a lot of videos and discussed this with a lot of fellow chunners... I believe there's a principle in wing chun called "never two hands on one" or something like that...
But in this particular case, it seems that this concept is being ignored...
Why is that?
I can understand, that if you'd only have one hand on the bong sau, then the bong could turn into tan-sau or fark-sau (depending on the pressure), but then again... If the pressure is not 100% straight into the centerline of the opponent, the bong-sau can still transform into either tan- or fark-sau...
How do you guys do this drills in your linage and why?
I'm training wing chun and I've recently started to learn to the lap-sau drill.
I have a few questions and I'm interested to hear what you guys have to say about this and how you do it in your linage...
Lap-sau without turning:
In my linage (which is a descentant of leung ting, but we do things more and more like wong sheung lung) we start by doing lap-sau without turning.
Also, the attacker (A from here on) leaves his non-attacking hand in wu-sau.
The defender (D from here on) makes a bong (without turning) the moment he feel the lap. D keeps his other hand in wu-sau position..
Now, we only do the lap-sau drill this way for a short period of time and it could be seen as a "dan-chi sau" exercise...
Lap-Sau with turning:
The next step is obviously to turn when doing bong-sau, to deflect the attack.
So, A will punch with his right, he'll get diagonal contact with D's right arm, do a lap-sau motion, while striking with his left arm. A will leave his right hand on D's arm/wrist.
D will (the moment he feels the lap) make a bong-sau and when he get contact with A's left arm (which is punching) he will turn and deflect.
The D will strike, get diagonal contact en the cycle reverse.
Now, I've seen a lot of videos and discussed this with a lot of fellow chunners... I believe there's a principle in wing chun called "never two hands on one" or something like that...
But in this particular case, it seems that this concept is being ignored...
Why is that?
I can understand, that if you'd only have one hand on the bong sau, then the bong could turn into tan-sau or fark-sau (depending on the pressure), but then again... If the pressure is not 100% straight into the centerline of the opponent, the bong-sau can still transform into either tan- or fark-sau...
How do you guys do this drills in your linage and why?