Well just to continue the chat like gents......... I dont really agree yes resistance is applied pressure and in that you develop power sensitivity so on realistically in full contact, I get that! We in Wing Chun and Jeet Kune or even for that matter my experience in doing Aiki Jiu Jitsu practiced full contact locking the joint and full on throws etc. We do this through drills and the wooden dummy exercises as well as sparring and full contact. So yes i agree somewhat but not as whole argument in your favor or to say in any way or form that some Kung Fu styles are not really practical and have been proven wrong that was said earlier in thread. That would really be said more about the practitioner not being aggressive enough or skilled enough to apply the necessary needed force and hit accurately at the target areas to immobilize or and trap/lock the opponent so on. How I'm reading your comment is, as if your saying thats the only way to learn beating each other senseless, oh no thats not learning but you are......... "Striking- the -Bull" is the Chinese saying so to speak. I'm stating the obvious I know but I'm making a point. First its through skills that are developed in various ways not just a hard beating Pressure and Sensitivity Drills Practicing movement like shadow boxing A guy who mentored me in boxing for a short time had me doing countless hours of repetitive movement Learning to move like pull back, bobbing, weaving, ducking and footwork skills are learn't through individual practical applications and exercises. EXAMPLE of Learning to move head and counter the best i can do in finding something relevant You first stumped me when I tried to share my view and opinion in post #201 here Kung Fu vs MMA But this also happened elsewhere in another post. Your saying that a demonstration is not real and you cant see the pressure and resistance I'm still saying you are partially incorrect as shown here.......... A guy throws a forward punch its countered then followed through in a final arm lock, with a decent amount of contact without completely knocking the guy out, so not to cause permanent injury. starting @.040 Now its at this point i want to address to be more specific and scientific that in reality in a street fight a guy would do exactly the same thing throwing a haymaker at your face and then you apply the same principle of the body mechanics and leverage they teach and train in. Which is done at full power and hard, fast, precise and following it through until its done finished and his given up. If he still resists then pull the arm out of the socket and finish with are hard thrust stomp kick to the jaw side of the face as your are still laying on the ground would be the way its done in Kung Fu San Soo also in Grav Maga. "Train Sport Think Street"! So to tell me that its not properly showing pressure is partially incorrect but I do understand what you mean and only came back to visit the thread to help you understand my view a little better I hope, in the discussion we are both in. I wish I could find a real fight using San Soo or Krav Maga to show the beauty of the art not the act of hurting but the aggressiveness of the art, its on that note I say I love it and put this matter to rest for me anyway and hope you can respect at least where I come from.