James Zumbo flushes career down toilet

Discussion in 'General Weapons Discussion' started by Grenadier, Feb 19, 2007.

  1. Grenadier

    Grenadier Administrator Staff Member

    • LifeTime Supporting Member
    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2005
    Messages:
    10,752
    Likes Received:
    592
    Trophy Points:
    263
    A gun snob, and an ignorant one at that:

    http://outdoorlife.blogs.com/zumbo/2007/02/assault_rifles_.html#comment-60817318


    Very ignorant of Zumbo, considering that many folks use the AR-15 platform as varmit guns, due to their accuracy, reliability, and versatility. Not only that, but other "evil" guns such as the SKS rifle, are frequently used for medium sized game, such as deer.



    He has posted his "apology" here:

    http://outdoorlife.blogs.com/zumbo/2007/02/i_was_wrong_big.html


    I have mixed feelings on this. One one hand, it takes a big man to admit that he was wrong, but on the other hand, someone of his experience should have had the wisdom to not go shooting his mouth (pardon the pun) in a fit of snobbery. While it's certainly his right to be a gun snob of the worst kind, he does need to realize that it's also everyone else's right to staunchly disagree with him.

    Don't be surprised if Remington drops their sponsorship of him.
     
  2. arnisandyz

    arnisandyz Master Black Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    1,346
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    73
    Location:
    Melbourne, Florida
    You would think after being involved in hunting, shooting and the NRA he should realize what implications his blog might bring. He was stating that the AR has no place in hunting, thats ok, he's entitled to his ignorant opinion, but what gets me is that he goes on to call them "assault" and "terrorist" weapons. This could easily be interpreted by media as..."Even James Zumbo, experienced expert hunter claims there is no place for assault weapons." What comes next is peaked interest in getting these types of guns BANNED. Gun owners should look at the whole (if one part of our shooting community takes a hit it will effect ALL shooters and it might not be too long before your grampas old hunting shotgun is banned too).
     
  3. grydth

    grydth Senior Master

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2007
    Messages:
    2,465
    Likes Received:
    150
    Trophy Points:
    123
    Location:
    Upstate New York.
    By the time the ripples from Zumbo's dumbo remarks have subsided, he may find himself hunting coyotes with a rubber band gun.
     
  4. arnisandyz

    arnisandyz Master Black Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    1,346
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    73
    Location:
    Melbourne, Florida
    I don't know if he flushed his career down the toilet, but he definately shot himself in the foot on this one.

    This is posted on Remington's Website:

    " NOTICE: Remington is in the process of severing our sponsorships with Mr. Zumbo. Remington in no way shares or advocates any of the comments made by Mr. Zumbo on his blog site. A formal announcement will be released by noon today."

    http://www.remington.com/
     
  5. Blotan Hunka

    Blotan Hunka Master Black Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2005
    Messages:
    1,464
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    63
    What was he thinking?
     
  6. arnisandyz

    arnisandyz Master Black Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    1,346
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    73
    Location:
    Melbourne, Florida
    It has started. The Brady Bunch picked up on it already...

    Sunday, February 18, 2007
    Even Remington's top gun writer agrees on Assault Weapons

    With important writers such as this on our side, it is clear that we have a cultural imperative to remove dangerous terrorist rifles from our streets, and our woods.

    Jim Zumbo is a writer for the prestigious Outdoor Life magazine and represents the views of America's true sportsmen. He is also sponsored by Remington.

    http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?f...&MyToken=bb027c77-4e4b-4679-9555-c1ec707d4eb0

    As far as his apology...its kind of like a murderer saying he was sorry for killing your family. Damage is done and its too little too late. His career deserves the death penalty.
     
  7. grydth

    grydth Senior Master

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2007
    Messages:
    2,465
    Likes Received:
    150
    Trophy Points:
    123
    Location:
    Upstate New York.
    Do we really want to know? Every now and then something disengages all a guy's safety mechanisms - like "Kramer" - and some slobbering demon gets out.
     
  8. Carol

    Carol Crazy like a...

    • MartialTalk Mentor
    • LifeTime Supporting Member
    • Martial Talk Alumni
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2006
    Messages:
    20,311
    Likes Received:
    540
    Trophy Points:
    248
    Location:
    NH
    That all sounds too...convenient.
     
  9. arnisandyz

    arnisandyz Master Black Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    1,346
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    73
    Location:
    Melbourne, Florida
    I'm guessing here... but I think he represents the opinion of most hunters (at least in my area). At our local gun club you have seperate "clicks" of shooters just like how there are clicks in highschool (jocks, nerds, etc). If I show up to shoot clays with my "tactical" pump shotgun I'm frowned upon because its not what they are used to. Doesn't matter if I can bust clays as good as someone with a $4000 double barrel. In short, there is some personal snobbery going on. He doesn't like the AR platform just like the clay shooters don't like the defensive shotgun which is ok...he is entitled to his opinion, when you are a prolific writer in the industry and don't consider what further damage your opinion might cause, well you know the rest! Its almost like he was privately talking among his hunting buddies around a campfire rather than addressing millions of readers, I just don't get it?
     
  10. arnisandyz

    arnisandyz Master Black Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    1,346
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    73
    Location:
    Melbourne, Florida
    Agreed...its like using a racial slur and then trying to say you have alot of friends that are ________.

    The Zumbo camp has a PR nightmare on thier hands.
     
  11. grydth

    grydth Senior Master

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2007
    Messages:
    2,465
    Likes Received:
    150
    Trophy Points:
    123
    Location:
    Upstate New York.
    I understand many hunters have no use for an AK....... just as hunting an animal down does absolutely nothing for me....... but why be stupid enough to give aid and comfort to those who want to disarm all of us?
     
  12. KenpoTex

    KenpoTex Senior Master

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2004
    Messages:
    3,001
    Likes Received:
    143
    Trophy Points:
    123
    Location:
    Springfield, Missouri
    This guy is a friggin idiot, I'm glad Remington is severing ties with him...

    hopefully this will end his career.
     
  13. grydth

    grydth Senior Master

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2007
    Messages:
    2,465
    Likes Received:
    150
    Trophy Points:
    123
    Location:
    Upstate New York.
    As a favor, can you tell me where you saw Remington has shown this guy the door?

    Well, given what's above in post #6, he's got one career about 'shot'...... but let's see if he jumps ship and becomes "The Voice of Reasonable and Responsible Gun Owners" over at the Brady organization or some similar place.

    Gun control was barely on the radar screen this year, and now its front burner thanks to him. Everyone has dumb thoughts, but whatever happened to just STFU when you do?
     
  14. bydand

    bydand Senior Master

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2006
    Messages:
    3,723
    Likes Received:
    32
    Trophy Points:
    158
    Location:
    West Michigan
    Well good for them! Prompt, decisive action on their part. I may just have to look at getting another Remington soon. Never hurts to back the good guys. :)
     
  15. Rich Parsons

    Rich Parsons A Student of Martial Arts

    • Advisor
    • Founding Member
    • LifeTime Supporting Member
    • Martial Talk Alumni
    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2001
    Messages:
    15,767
    Likes Received:
    428
    Trophy Points:
    208
    Location:
    Michigan

    Both Links are down or 404.
     
  16. Grenadier

    Grenadier Administrator Staff Member

    • LifeTime Supporting Member
    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2005
    Messages:
    10,752
    Likes Received:
    592
    Trophy Points:
    263
  17. Infinite

    Infinite Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2006
    Messages:
    497
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    San Jose California
    So what I don't understand is...

    The right to bear arms was granted us to protect us from our OWN GOVERNMENT.

    Yet they outlaw the same cool toys they have. Now granted no one civi or government should have nukes and or biologicals...

    But I mean I think the commute to work would be more plesant if the guy inf ront of you may or may not have an armour pericing projectile of some kind.

    --Infy
    Its not about gun control... its about SELF control.
     
  18. Grenadier

    Grenadier Administrator Staff Member

    • LifeTime Supporting Member
    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2005
    Messages:
    10,752
    Likes Received:
    592
    Trophy Points:
    263
    Almost any centerfire rifle ammo will penetrate soft body armor, regardless of bullet construction.


    We are in complete agreement on that matter!
     
  19. kempo7

    kempo7 White Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2007
    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Open mouth insert foot
     
  20. tellner

    tellner Senior Master

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2005
    Messages:
    4,380
    Likes Received:
    235
    Trophy Points:
    173
    Location:
    Orygun
    Infinite, the Constitution does not grant any rights. It recognizes ones with which we are naturally endowed. At least that was the theory back when "that damned piece of paper" (to quote Shrubus Minimus) was written.123
     

Share This Page