in the way of danger

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  1. Paul B

    Paul B 3rd Black Belt

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    Tricky thing,that reading comp. I don't think anyone reading this would hesitate to protect themselves or their loved ones from harm.

    What I think people are having problems with is someone actively going out to look for trouble while leaving a wife and children behind,possibly forever. Other then that, this is all I have left to say...:feedtroll
     
  2. painstain

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    yep, they mean to hurt your mother daughter sister or wife, and i mean to hurt them
     
  3. painstain

    painstain Green Belt

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    whats wrong with feeding trolls, they watch my back. if i went out saying yes i'm ganna get killed then i would agree with you. but i don't gop out thinking i'm leaving anyone. i'm not one to assume failure before i've gon far byound it.

    with respect

    pAINSTAIN
     
  4. Swordlady

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    Just a thought: All the martial art training in the world does not make anyone invincible. One well-placed blow could potentially cripple you - or lead to your early demise. Think about your children, for crying out loud.
     
  5. JC2005

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    I definetaly have to say that although fighting is bad I wouldn't excalty going around instigating. also the adrenaline rush you get from hitting and getting hit is amazing but I'm just not sure if it would be worth it if something were to escalate out of control especially having a family. I'll admit that I have instigated myself but I only did it once because I realized that it could have gotten out of control.

    JC2005:)
     
  6. Andy Moynihan

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    At least you realized it and adjusted accordingly.


    If there are people who like to fight *THAT MUCH*, my only advice is: be smart enough to get *paid* for it. *shrug*
     
  7. painstain

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    SWORDLADY, i am thinking about my kids, and yours, and you, and your sisters and your mothers.
    thank you for your concern.

    i don't mind being wrong, i just want to now if there are others out there that feel like standing up to these guys is better than backing down. i appriciate all the comments, even from whats his face. keep em coming

    with respect
    painstain
     
  8. painstain

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    hey andy, i have had a guy put up 20 bucks before we got into it. and i made 20bucks in 40 seconds. is that bad?
     
  9. Andy Moynihan

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    So this is kind of a "karmic fair trade" thing? You have it somehow figured in your head that if *you* face the bad things then you hope that, in exchange, maybe those for whom you care won't have to?
     
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    lol I suppose that if it were going to happen one way or another try and make a couple bucks off the deal;-) lol


    JC2005
     
  11. Jonathan Randall

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  12. Adept

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    So which is it? You want to show everyone how tough you are, or you are trying to prevent crime?

    Either way, there are safer and more effective options than deliberately getting involved in street violence.
     
  13. Dark

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    Pain,

    I only have three things to say, I understand your attitude I'm from the so called "wrong side" of town myself. So I have been through some nasty **** in my day, I've also seen sunny down town Bagdad (yes I know I misspelled it ;) ).

    1- You wanna teach these young punks on the street a lesson, I understand your point on this. I've even shown a few pups whats its like with the "old dogs" but there a point to testing yourself and teaching others. If wonna teach the pups then lead by example and if you want to test yourself get in a ring, cage, backyard whatever you are less likely to get jumped by 4 to 8 people, get stabbed or shot.

    2- I just have to ask why do feel the need to test yourself? I'm not gonna tell you your being stupid, but on allot of levels you are. Now I'm gonna point this out to you, we both know everytime you fight you take a chance, a serious chance, if you have no "safety net" you are looking at serious pain and possible trouble.

    3- You enjoy the excitement of it, that are two things which this generally can relate, either your just now getting a taste of the excitement and have started craving it, or you have lived rather dangerously before and now you are having to feel the void so to speak. I've seen this third option with guys who went to Iraq and after living in constant edge were having trouble taking that edge off. I seriously hope this isn't the case because you are on the way to a mental breakdown at some level.

    As far as anything else goes, I say have fun. Allot of people won't learn until they get hurt and most will never learn. Do as you do brother, but be safe or as safe as possible doing it...
     
  14. AdrenalineJunky

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    People like you are welcome in my gym any time. I don't see anything special about fighting people that don't know how to fight.
     
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    Sir, you may want to re-read your post that started this thread; where you went looking for trouble and purposefully put yourself 'in the way of danger.' That is much different that thinking about your kids and others, as you are trying to defend your actions now.

    Wouldn't it be ironic if your next fight was with a like-minded good samaritan that was defending his family from you?

    Best Wishes!
    crushing
     
  16. still learning

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    Hello, To painstain...One day you will find yourself fighting the wrong person! Bang,bang or a silently knife stab unexpected, or the other person friend hits you will a club/something from behind.

    Today so many people killed..you have a family and kids...what about being a good role model. Everytime you get into a fight..brings you closer to Jail or a morgue...your choice? National average is approx 30,000 people kill in street fights.

    Growing up.. means being a good person/respected/honest/role model for others to follow....NOT a BULLY

    One day you will understand passive thinking over aggressive thinking..which one works best and most times. (yes there are times we need to fight back).

    We are trying to help you see you ways are no longer acceptable and long life is not going to happen if you don't change!

    Trying to help you see..your lifestyle of getting into fights...UM? ...NOT good...Please try other peaceful methods to settle things...Yes some people do need to kick there A---kick. Let others(there kind do it)...Just my thoughts and feelings here........Aloha
     
  17. knifeboy

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    hey i just finished reading this thread, really interesting... to painstain: i hear what ur saying about the adrenaline rush, helping others and all that, and i'v gotta admit iv also placed myself in a position to get into a fight. differance is im 19 and have no responsabilities to any kids, etc. YOU DO. So b4 u go out to save the world think about ur kids... who's gonna help them when ur gone?
     
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    Don't you know that most every parent's worst nightmare is to bury their own child? It is downright foolish of you to deliberately put yourself in harm's way just for kicks. Please think carefully about how your family would feel if God forbid you don't survive the next "thrill-seeking" adventure.
     
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    hmmm... i hear u, guess m/b im being just as selfish... s/t 2 consider...
     
  20. Rich Parsons

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    knifeboy,

    While it is not against the rules to post in the short hand of IM. It does make it much harder for people to follow you and to read your posts. There is no hurry here, and also no charge per word sent, so feel free to expand the text and be as verbose as you need to be to express your point in a clear and concise manner.

    Thanks

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