Discussion in 'The Study' started by Twin Fist, Jun 23, 2011.
TF, since you and most of the board here disagree on the Islam issue. How do you feel that we should handle the "problem"?
leash, not lash....
Personally, I think everyone needs to cut out the personal shots and flame baiting. This thread is all kinds of fail, and the good points people are making are being completely lost. Just my opinion.
just ignore them, after all, it was all a secret plot by Bush anyway
Yeah I am. I have to sometimes.
So let me remind everyone here: Debate all you want, but there is no need to be jackasses, jerks etc. So if people wish to keep their access and not get locked out, everyone knock it off already.
And John, I'll defend your right to your opinion because that's what I believe in.
But you could be a lot less of a jerk in your comments as well.
and now, I have to get back to photo editing.
hell Bob, i am sorry, i guess my standards of polite and yours dont mix, cux to me i have been the model of politeness in the face of personal insults
There's only one standard of politeness that matters on these boards, and it's Bob's. You and I are guests.
But, getting back to the point of the thread, Bob and others have put some interesting questions out to you. I'd love to hear actual answers to them. You don't have to tell us that you think they're wrong. I get that. WHY do you think they're wrong? Can you in any way support your position?
-TF, would you agree that out of those 2.2 billion Muslims, that some of them practice their religion peacefully? I ask this because, when you attack a religion, it seems you are also attacking the people who follow that religion. I can point to the Westboro freaks and understand that they do not represent Christianity as a whole, simply a small, twisted version of it, a version that is not shared by the majority of Christians.
-I would also ask if you think all Muslims should just simply give up Islam? Perhaps convert to something different...?
:hb: Oh for crying out loud it Muslim is not a race of people it a group of people from various races that are follower of the religion of Islam. A race is a group of persons related by common descent or heredity
As much as it pains me to admit this Twin Fist is right so stop being silly and get on with it
2 reported posts already in this thread. Lets stop the back and forth bickering please. Anything else will result in an IC and a locked thread.
i am absolutely convinced of it. The religion itself is flawed, evil and corrupted, but just like every other religion, not everyone takes it so seriously
i think most people of every religion follow it out of habit, not sincere devotion
islam is jacked, but not all muslims are jacked up
OK, that's better.... we don't agree… I was getting nervous
Muslimism is no more flawed than any other religion on the planet. And there were several prominent Muslin clerics that came out and said that Osama and his friends completely miss interpreted and/or misused the Koran for their own purposes and that they also completely misused Jihad.
Basically the religion is fine, just fine much like Catholicism or Protestantism but it is those that decide to interpret it for their own means is where the issues start just like Isabel of Spain used it to get the Inquisition going because of Jews and Moors and just like Martin Luther, John Calvin did for the Protestant Reform and lets not forget Oliver Cromwell
If you read the Koran without bias you will find a whole lot of similarities to Christianity
nope islam is a cult of death founded by a pedophile who preached forced conversion and sex with children
jesus didnt do any of that
they are NOT equal
Christianity is a death cult founded by a guy who had a death wish and a god complex (or narcissistic personality disorder, depending on who you talk to) who encouraged ritualized cannibalism.
Sounds pretty equal to me.
Of course, I don't believe that either this or what TF is posting is true. To honestly believe that the Muslim religion is a "cult of death founded by a pedophile who preached forced conversion and sex with children" would be irrational and crazy. Wouldn't it?
Ahh that's better... the close minded Twin Fist we have all come to know and love.
:hmm: Did I say they were equal... would you please quote where I said they were equal.... and I’m not talking Jesus I am talking about the things the religions are based upon and comparing the Koran and the Bible…but regardless…
I will waste no time trying to convince you otherwise since you have made your decision, no matter how flawed that decision is and you will stand by it no matter how indefensible it becomes no matter how much proof is supplied to the contrary... you hold on to your original flawed belief.
Oh and you are completely wrong by the way, there are a lot of similarities between Muslimism and Christianity… but since it is likely you do not really understand either of them beyond the superficial and much of that is based on opinion, misinformation and mythology and you do not really care to learn more it is senseless to go further.
The Chinese got it right about closed minds by the way
I also like these two
And yes I am saying you have a closed mind.
By the way have you ever read the Koran, the Bible or looked at the Muslim religion and the Christian religion without wearing your glasses tinted with intolerance?
i do know i am getting tired of your insults.
no one has insulted you, and your entire post was one long commentary on my character
you actually refuted NOTHING i said, instead you tried to distract from the truth of my statements by ridiculing and attackign my character
as debating techniques go, your post was:
everything i said is true
islam is a cult of death, founded by a pedophile who preached forced conversion and murder
i know this because i have read the book in question
oh, and since we are on the subject of "minds"
a mind, like a wound, if left too open, for too long, is prone to infection.
or even better
You got to stand for something or you will fall for anything
I am so stealing that picture! Very useful.
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