Fruit juice doubles risk of childhood obesity
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KempoGuy06
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I find this hard to swallow (sorry). Soft drink are loaded with sugar, and caffine, along with other stuff. Yes fruit juices contain sugar (serious think about what foods out there dont have sugar in one form or another) but they also contain vitamins and minerals that a lot kids dont get. Plus if they are active kids the sugars they consume will be broken down just as quickly. My $.02
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Now I understand why I'am fat those damm fruit juices, so let me go eat some more Pop Tarts, those have no sugar
HKphooey
Senior Master
This goes back to the real problem lazy kids. I remember growing up and eating Stoffer's frozen pizzas every day, ice cream every day in the summer, donuts on the weekend, soda until I puked, and so on....
The difference was I was outside running around from the minute I got home from school until my parents had to drag me inside.
And I got older, so of that free time was replaced with sports and yardwork, not video games.
The difference was I was outside running around from the minute I got home from school until my parents had to drag me inside.
And I got older, so of that free time was replaced with sports and yardwork, not video games.
I think 'fruit juice' only needs to have 10% juice to be considered a juice, the other 90% isn't all that different than a sugary soft drink; basically corn syrup water.
Activity levels are a huge component. A lot of it comes down to eating/drinking Calories in versus excercising the Calories out.
KempoGuy06
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Very good point. I believe you are correct. Even 100% fruit juices will have sugar, like I said what food doesnt in some form have sugar. But the sugars in 100% juices are not the issue because again they will be demolished by a 12yr olds metabolism (i wish I had one then I would have to workout so hard). Like HK said lazy kids is the real problem also parents who blame everything but themselves on why there kids are overweight (genetics play so role this is understandable but the majority it is not genetics)
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Fruit is meant to be eaten, not drunk. Although an active kid will burn off the sugar, there is no one who would not be better off eating fruit (fiber and all) and drinking water than they would be drinking fruit juice.
There are too many people, kids and adults, who think they need to drink something sweet and flavored. Water is good for you. Water quenches thirst. Children need to be raised to drink water and adults who think they need to drink something sweet should grow up.
There are too many people, kids and adults, who think they need to drink something sweet and flavored. Water is good for you. Water quenches thirst. Children need to be raised to drink water and adults who think they need to drink something sweet should grow up.
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I would believe that, Fruit drinks, fruit punch, and fruity soda all seem to have the same suger base. Unless its 100% juice odds are its 90% sugar. As for being the cause of childhood obesity i wouldnt go that far because the lack of activity is far more dangerious i would think then the suger content. I drank soda and ate junk food and untill i got my computer i was outside on my bike every day durring the summer, once we got connected to the internet thats where i spent my summer.
Shaderon
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I agree, it's not mostly what we put in our kids it's what we get out of them..... oh dear that sounds SO wrong.... but I mean in the form of physical excercise. My daughter is only allowed to play on the computer as a real treat if she's tired from playing or if we've excercised heavily that weekend. We spend most of our days walking somewhere. A bit of sugar isn't going to harm them badly, it's not the best food in the world but it's not THAT bad, it's the combined inactivity with the bad diet that's the worst.
All together "Carbs are not bad"
I don't buy it at all. Processed sugar that is used in soft drinks, and natural sugar found in fruit are two different things.
But that is of course providing it is really juice, and not just a non-carbonated fruit flavoured beverage with a hint of juice.
Fat kids solution is easy, send them to the park. I imagine it won't take much convincing after they get hooked on unorganized sports.
Problem is too many kids are practically locked up for there own safety, given drugs if they are hyperactive, and babysat by a playstation. They may be safer from some things indoor, but not from bad health.
I don't buy it at all. Processed sugar that is used in soft drinks, and natural sugar found in fruit are two different things.
But that is of course providing it is really juice, and not just a non-carbonated fruit flavoured beverage with a hint of juice.
Fat kids solution is easy, send them to the park. I imagine it won't take much convincing after they get hooked on unorganized sports.
Problem is too many kids are practically locked up for there own safety, given drugs if they are hyperactive, and babysat by a playstation. They may be safer from some things indoor, but not from bad health.
Really? How exactly? Depending on the fruit juice and the more artificial drink you might have a different mix of sugars, but they're all simple sugars that will be digested more or less the same way. Furthermore, "natural" fruit drinks will often has as much sugar as more artificial drinks and will be just as devoid of the fiber fruit naturally has.
Sucrose, table sugar is a Disaccharide: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disaccharide
Fructose and Glucose are Monosaccharides: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monosaccharide
Fructose and Glucose are "simple sugars", Sucrose is not. Fruit contains all of them, where soft drinks is pretty much all Sucrose.
Fructose and Glucose are Monosaccharides: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monosaccharide
Fructose and Glucose are "simple sugars", Sucrose is not. Fruit contains all of them, where soft drinks is pretty much all Sucrose.
If anything, soft drinks (in the US at least) would be mostly fructose.
I looked it up for coke... you got me
Seems they changed it at some point, although in most countries Sucrose is still used.
On a somewhat related note, here's a open source cola, so you can brew your own
http://everythingelse.wordpress.com/2007/02/18/opencola-open-source-coca-cola/
Shuto
Purple Belt
Yep, they did change it at some point. High fructose corn syrup is the preferred industrial sweetener in the US nowadays.
It's the most highly-subsidized sweetener, thanks to politicians from farm states.
KempoGuy06
Grandmaster
This is true for most fruits but not all. There are tons of vitamins in the peel on an orange but do you eat the peel? Only if you burn off the taste buds first, the bitter taste can not be tollerated for long. So jucing them would be more benificial (of course this is probably something to be done at home with a juicer i dont know if manufacturers uses the peel or not).
Also cranberry juice is extremely good for you, ecspecially with the cleansing of the liver, but to get the required amount of minerals out of un-juiced cranberries you would have to eat a massive amount of them.
And ill branch out from 'traditional' fruits. Tomato, cucummber(sp?), squash ad zuccini(sp?) are all fruits but how many kids do you know that eat them. They have vitamins and minerals that are essential to the body and jucing them and mixing them with other convential (for lack of a better term) fruits like apple, peaches, bananas and others you can get those vitamins but still have a great tasting drink.
Yes water is the best thing in the world for you but not all kids will drink enough water, so juices (as long as they are 100%) are a good substitute not a complete one you still need water but a good one from time to time
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blackxpress
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Put me in the lack of activity category. True, most kids (American kids anyway) are undernourished. They exist on diets of junk food and fast food (the dept. of redundancy dept.) that are high in fat and empty calories and low in protein, fiber and essential minerals. Also, as someone alluded to already, they don't drink near enough water. That said, the bigger problem is that the typical American kid (like the typical American adult) lives an incredibly sedentary lifestyle. Too much time in front of the computer screen and the television screen and not enough time playing outdoors or doing strenuous chores.
The dojo where I train now is adults only. The one where I used to train, however, had lots of kids. Only a few of those kids were in good physical shape. The majority of them were out of shape and several of them were fat. The only physical activity they ever got was 3 hours a week in the dojo. Our sensei used to gripe about it all the time. Last summer we trained outside in the city park. He made those kids (us adults too) run laps and do calesthenics out there in the summer heat. It was amazing to see how badly those kids struggled.
Bottom line: If children aren't forced to push their bodies on a regular basis they will be fat and out of shape regardless of how much or how little fruit juice they drink.
The dojo where I train now is adults only. The one where I used to train, however, had lots of kids. Only a few of those kids were in good physical shape. The majority of them were out of shape and several of them were fat. The only physical activity they ever got was 3 hours a week in the dojo. Our sensei used to gripe about it all the time. Last summer we trained outside in the city park. He made those kids (us adults too) run laps and do calesthenics out there in the summer heat. It was amazing to see how badly those kids struggled.
Bottom line: If children aren't forced to push their bodies on a regular basis they will be fat and out of shape regardless of how much or how little fruit juice they drink.
That I think is a problem, a lot of things that look like juices, and promote themselves pretty much as juices (and being healthy) are basically soft drinks without bubbles, for example:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3257820.stm
KempoGuy06
Grandmaster
Very interesting article (disturbing as well). I agree I bet that if you went down the juice isle at a local grocery store and took down 20 different bottles based only on the name on the label that only 1-3 (maybe a stretch) would be 100% juice. This is sad and exactly why people should read labels, this might be tedious but it could be worth it. Or shop only at health food stores like Wild Oats
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