Do you know your Kenpo lineage?

Discussion in 'Kenpo - (EPAK) Ed Parker's American Kenpo Karate S' started by Ceicei, May 3, 2004.

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Do you know your Kenpo lineage?

  1. Yes, I can trace my training lineage back to the founder.

  2. Well, I am vaguely aware about some of the people who taught my instructor(s).

  3. No, but I would like to know.

  4. Who cares? I am only interested in my training under my current instructor(s).

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  1. Ceicei

    Ceicei Grandmaster

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    I am curious about how many of you pay attention to your Kenpo lineage and whether that knowledge is important to you.

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  2. Touch Of Death

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    I can trace my lineage being a second generation BB just fine. However, I more concur with the idea that it is not that important to me. My vision of the art is very much that given to me by my instructor. I got to meet Mr. Parker, attend a few seminars, and even hang out with him and a few others in his living room. It was great meeting the person my instructor talked about non stop, but I was really in no position to be influanced by Mr. Parker one way or the other. Mr. Parker was important to me because he was important to my instructor, and I hope to someday fully appreciate my proximity to Mr. Parker. I do appreciate it more and more as time goes by. In the back of my mind though, I really owe my love of the art to the example set by my instructor, hands down. I hope this post didn't seem in anyway disrespectfull; I was just trying to be realistic. :asian:
    Sean
     
  3. My instructors were Joe and Jess Mora,who were taught by Al Tracy,who was taught by Mr.Parker
     
  4. RCastillo

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    All the people that have helped me have been taught by Master Al, and he has taught me, and tested me all the way.

    David Williams
    John Fite
    Dave Hopper
    plus a few others that have slipped my memory

    However, I own Texas now, and sit nicely on my throne as I survey my Kingdom. :supcool:
     
  5. Goldendragon7

    Goldendragon7 Grandmaster

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    Humph :jedi1:
     
  6. Rick Wade

    Rick Wade Master Black Belt

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    Currently I am under Mr. Jeff Lujan of the Universal Kenpo Federation headed by Mr. Pick who as many of you know was with Mr. Parker's since the 50s and never left Mr. Parker except to join the Marine Corps for Vietnam and then returned. (wow what a runnon sentence).
     
  7. RCastillo

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    Uh, no, I did not forget the Goldendragon! Though he has somewhat of a Tracy past of sorts,(skeltons in the closet) I didn't want to list him cause then he's gonna yell at me.

    He's in a special catgotry: The Ed Parker American Kenpo liason. Kinda like a diplomat with powers of immunity. :uhyeah:
     
  8. c2kenpo

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    I can trace my lineage From
    Mr. Dennis Lawson ~ Mr. R.S. Mitchell ~ Mrs. Melody Mitchell
    Mr. Brian Heinz - Mr. Skip Hancock
    Mr. Ed Parker Sr.

    Although I don't belive that the linage has as much to do with the overall knowledge base because you do learn to make the lessons of Kenpo your own, it is fun to see where you come from at times. Just like your own personal family tree.
    With the opportunites I have had to train with many Kenpoists from all over, I can firmly say that I would add each and every one of them into my own personal lineage as they have all had a profound affect on me, and even tho I never personally was able to train with Mr. Parker Sr. his teachings are still today simply a joy to study.
    In no paticular order.

    Mr. Jeff Speakman
    Mr. Ed Parker Jr.
    Mr. John Sepulveda
    Mr. Dennis Conatser
    Mr. Zach Whitson
    Mr. Gill Hibben
    Mr. Richard "Huk" Planas
    Mr. Sean Kelly
    Ms. Jacki McVicar
    Ms. Doreen Cogliandro
    Mr. Benny "The Jet " Urquidez
    Mr. Bob White
    Mr. Steve LaBounty
    Mr. Paul Dye

    To those on this list and those that have yet to become a part of my Kenpo Journey, my deepest thanks and best wishes.

    David Gunzburg
     
  9. sumdumguy

    sumdumguy Green Belt

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    Yeah, real easy.
    A.C. Rainey
    David Hebler
    S.G.M. Parker

    That's the tree version of it. I have also spent a little time with Mr. Hebler as my "helper" in a Seminar I was teaching. Really cool and kinda threw me when he asked, but he wanted to be my assistant for the class... I never really trained with him, don't mis-understand. Just some good conversation.
    :asian:
     
  10. Old Fat Kenpoka

    Old Fat Kenpoka Master Black Belt

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    I know my lineage now. There were some unclear links until MartialTalk and the KenpoNet helped me to find the people who could fill in the blanks.
     
  11. Touch Of Death

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    I'll give credit where it is due. My first instructor was Matt David of unknown lineage, Mr Bleeker claimed him at one point in a conversation I was having. However, My "true" lineage is Skip Hancock and Mr. Parker.
    Sean
     
  12. Bill Lear

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    Here's a list of my instructors:

    Larry Tatum (Current Instructor)
    Clyde O'Briant (Current Instructor)
    Bryan Hawkins
    Wes Idol
    Frank Trejo
    Larry Kongaika

    :asian:
     
  13. parkerkarate

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    My instructor is Joe Palanzo who was taught by Mr. Ed Parker.
     
  14. sierra don

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    My instructor is Mr. Howard Silva, who's instructor was Mr. Ed Parker.

    Don
     
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  15. Doc

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    My Kenpo Lineage began and ended with my Kenpo teacher. Anything beyond that doesn't matter.
     
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  16. satans.barber

    satans.barber Master Black Belt

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    Trained under Glen Coolican, who was under Phil Cawood, who was under Gary Ellis, who was under Bob Rose, who was under SGM Parker if I have it right.

    Ian.
     
  17. KenpoTess

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    EPAK Lineage
    Professor Dennis Conatser
    Mr. Michael Seigel
     
  18. Michael Billings

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    Dual Lineage:

    Ed Parker
    Tommy Burks
    Me


    Tracy to American Kenpo

    Mitose
    Chow
    Ed Parker
    Steven Labounty
    Gary Swan
    Brian Duffy
    Me

    1986-87 Split (after my Shodan from the NCKKA)

    Brian Duffy left the Chinese Kenpo system and became one of Mr. Parker's students. I tested for 2nd Black with Mr. Parker in 1989. Was my lineage?

    Ed Parker
    Brian Duffy
    Me**

    **(I have to note Howard Silva in here somewhere, as my Mentor or "Uncle" in the Art, while he taught advanced classes for a year at Mr. Duffy's, following our joining the IKKA, he helped enormously with my transition to American Kenpo and the watchmaker phase of my learning beginning.)

    I am sooooo confused. All I know is I got a great foundation in the Iron Worker school vis a vis Sigung Labounty, Gary Swan, Brian Duffy ... then entered the Watchmaker phase. But boy it took a long time for me to transition, and there is still something to be said for focusing on the Ironworker school of "punch their heart out", I just don't remember if applied to the opponent, or the number of reps we had to do.
     
  19. Goldendragon7

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    Man, me too....... do you supply a road map?


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  20. Michael Billings

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    Heck, I don't even have a map Brudda. You figure in there as one of the "uncles" who showed us the Dark Side. I saw how I wanted to move while you were travelling with "the man" and showing us the way!

    Kudos,
    -Michael
     

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