Can you do this?

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  1. oftheherd1

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    Interesting that I learned something similar to that in the TKD I studied. Our concept was the feet were plated flat on the ground, and the power traveled up from the feet/ground, through the torso to the shoulders which were squared, across the shoulder of the trailing foot across to the shoulder of the striking hand, down that to the knuckles of the striking hand. It sounds complicated but after many applications and corrections, it begins to work. Perhaps some gi at work as well, but after a time on begins to feel the greater striking power.

    Does that sound in any way similar (if not exact) to what you are describing? It kind of does to me.

    Thanks for explaining that.
     
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    I think that most every system has some version of this. The manifestation may be somewhat different from one system to another maybe some methods get the job done better than others, but they are working on the same concept.

    I also think that a lot of people, including instructors, do not understand this very well and do a poor job of teaching it, if at all. So in some schools or lineages it is becoming lost.
     
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    I think I get it. There's some isometric tension involved, using the back of the leg to provide tension that's used in the movement. Does that get close to that part of the concept?
     
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    Yes, it is in keeping the integrity of the roof while at the same time being able to pivot and rotate for each punch.
     
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    I suppose I had always assumed he was French, now that you mention it, because, well, it is set in France! I think I read it in high school, but that was something in excess of 35 years ago.
     
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    Historically, he was part of the well known Modo clan. Besides Quasi there was Almost, Partially, Purportedly and the illustrious Somewhatmodo, perhaps the most talented bell ringer of all time. He was the one who coined the phrase "Every time a fighter gets his bell rung an angel gets his wings."
     
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  7. oftheherd1

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    Unfortunately I think your last paragraph is all to true.
     
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  8. Kung Fu Wang

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    To be able to generate the maximum amount of power when your feet are on the ground is hard. To be able to generate the maximum amount of power when your feet are moving is even harder.

    single static punch < single dynamic punch < multiple dynamic punches

     
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    Thanks. If we ever end up in the same place, I'd love to talk through that when we can use actual legs.
     
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    It would be my pleasure.
    We are actually in the middle of moving away from the San Francisco area, and will be living in Folsom, near the capital of Sacramento. It is about two hours drive from San Francisco. If you ever find yourself heading in that direction, get in touch.
     
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    If your write it “Quasi-modo” then you could say it is “sort of” modo...
     
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    Will definitely do.
     
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    I like that step. And I like it a lot more than the foolish drop step that was popularized a couple years back.
     
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    The "stiff" forearm striking (that you punch out without bending your elbow joint by just moving your shoulder joint) is a very interested skill. The advantage are:

    1. You can develop knock down power in your "jab".
    2. It forces you to add in footwork into your punch.
    3. It forces you to put your body behind your punch.
    4. It you can punch your opponent once, you can punch him multiple times without pulling your arm back.
    5. It meets the principle that you want to take over your opponent's position.
    6. You can punch out from any stiff arms guard (such as rhino guard, or Chinese zombie guard).

    6 is the most interested for me.

     
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    There are some advantages (I agree #6 is the most interesting). Don't some of those also apply to other punches, in a different way?
    1. You can have knockdown power in a jab with a flex-arm punch, too.
    2. Each punch forces work in a different area, because of what it doesn't include.
    3. It's possible to use a quick "arm only" punch if you flex the arm (to hold distance, disrupt an attack, distract, etc.).
    4. If you can punch your opponent once, you can probably punch him multiple times without having to step much.
    5. It meets the principle of being able to punch from different ranges, including inside arm's-length.
    6. You can punch out from a flexed-arm guard.
    I think this is one of those places where each has advantages, and exploring both gives a chance to decide which advantages are more important. And I still think your #6 is a sweet advantage. The closest thing I use to rhino guard still has the arms slightly bent, for easier transitions, but now I want to play a bit and see what I like about working with it straight-armed.
     
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    I'm not even going to try doing it. I can already tell it'll aggravate my left shoulder injury.
     
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    We were playing Trivial Pursuit (that dates me!) with the neighbors a long while back. The question was ... Who played Quasimodo in the 1956 movie "The Hunchback of Notre Dame". In answer, our neighbor Debbie said "I have no idea as I've never been a college football fan!" o_O
     
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    What a terrific game Trivial Pursuit is. So much fun.
     
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    No but I can do this. FB_IMG_1560220432557.jpg123
     
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