U.K. Sword Ban

[Gyakuto]

Are murders by sword common in the U.K.?

Not really. I can think of two in recent years, but knife crimes care more common chiefly amongst young gang members, mainly in London. It’s due to availability of weapons in the U.K. Thankfully, guns are not easily available over here (there’s supposedly only 6 pistols in circulation amongst the criminal underground) otherwise I’m sure they’d be the weapon of choice amongst criminals, as they are in the USA.

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04304/SN04304.pdf

Who is behind the ban and why?

Our failing government. They need something to boost their plummeting popularity as the idea is naturally popular amongst the public, especially the families of those killed by bladed weapons.

IMO a sword ban is crazy.

I’m partly in agreement with you. I think they should not be available for purchase, online, by muggles who just want something cool to hang on their wall or make silly chopping videos for TikTok. But fully registered, licensed sale to those learning martial arts or antique collectors should be permissible. I’d even go as far as suggesting a mental health record would exclude a person from keeping a sword, but that’s more difficult to implement. In other words, it should be very difficult to purchase and keep a sword.

Will they come for chefs next?

Only if they start carrying them around in public without legitimate reasons.

 

[Gyakuto]

I have a friend who has just bought a sword from a famous Japanese dealer and is a little worried about it being seized and destroyed on arriving on these shores. She felt that being upfront and honest was the best policy, but I wonder if that might come back to bite her!

The sword dealer is currently applying for a permit from the Japanese Agency of Cultural Affairs, to export the sword. The purchaser asked the dealer on strategies to facilitate the swords smooth delivery to her address and the dealer said they had little experience in this (!) but suggested she contacted U.K. Customs on her intent to import a Japanese, antique sword. HMRC said they’d calculate the import tax and bill her when it arrived in the U.K., but suggested she should contact the Home Office about her intent and for ‘advice’ on it’s import. She has done this and awaits a response.

I think the uncertainty in all this, especially on the dealer’s side, is quite disconcerting, but that’s the state of play. I’ll keep you informed as to whether her honesty was the best course of action!

 

[Steve]

Are murders by sword common in the U.K.? Who is behind the ban and why? The only one I can recall here in the US was a karate feud that got out of hand in the 1970's. It was a great story, but 50 years is too long ago to remember the details. It was an interesting time. IMO a sword ban is crazy. Will they come for chefs next?

Murders by sword may be rare, but I’d like to know more about how often people are stabbed in the rear with screwdrivers. That’s something I’ve never heard before. Maybe Brita can’t be trusted with simple tools of any kind.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

When I was in military academy two officer cadets got into a fight with their sabers. One stabbed the other in the buttock severing the gluteal artery. Both survived the rest of the year as buck privates doing all the menial chores that could be stacked on them with no access to the PX or liberty.

 

[Gyakuto]

There was a ITN news report of gangs of Sikhs fighting each other with swords at the Golden Temple in Amritsar (I think). It was over something fairly trivial, and nobody was badly hurt, but it was rather fascinating seeing swords actually used in anger! As you can see it was rather half-hearted and sloppy!

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

There was a ITN news report of gangs of Sikhs fighting each other with swords at the Golden Temple in Amritsar (I think). It was over something fairly trivial, and nobody was badly hurt, but it was rather fascinating seeing swords actually used in anger! As you can see it was rather half-hearted and sloppy!

I remember watching that with my good friends Bupinder Singh and Harginder Dhaliwal. It was a sad day. We drank a lot of beer over it.

 

[Gyakuto]

I remember watching that with my good friends Bupinder Singh and Harginder Dhaliwal. It was a sad day. We drank a lot of beer over it.

Just a bunch of hot heads. I have a friend called Bupinder Singh!

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

Just a bunch of hot heads. I have a friend called Bupinder Singh!

Lions, they.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

Just a bunch of hot heads. I have a friend called Bupinder Singh!

True to form they are great friends or terrible enemies.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

Just a bunch of hot heads. I have a friend called Bupinder Singh!

When I was 20 I was hired by a veterinarian named Karambir Bhullar. He was extraordinarily kind to me. Only one other employee was not a Sikh. He was the most wonderful boss I ever had. I learned an incredible amount from him and he treated me better than some of his own family. Dr Bhullar would “sit“for surgery while his primary servant “ the colonel” would hold his tea on a saucer while standing to the left. Both the business accountant and Primary business manager would hold and gesture to charts and and argue on the opposite side of the operating table from Dr Bhullar and “the colonel” and a receptionist holding a phone to his ear. Dr Sahi or Dr Randhawa shuttleing the surgical patients in and out as we operated. Occasionally complaining about the temperature of the tea, Dr Bhullar could accomplish a canine ovariohysterectomy in under 4 minutes cut to close, whilst simultaneously having a phone call and refereeing a fight between accountant and manager. I have delightful memories of working safely within the eye of his tornadoe. I still believe he only hired me because my hair was past my belt line, I had facial hair, I wore a silver bracelet, I had a comb in my pocket, a knife on my belt, and the look of someone with good taste in underwear.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

When I was 19 I was hired by a veterinarian named Karambir Bhullar. He was extraordinarily kind to me. Only one other employee was not a Sikh. He was the most wonderful boss I ever had. I learned an incredible amount from him and he treated me better than some of his own family. Dr Bhullar would “sit“for surgery while his primary servant “ the colonel” would hold his tea on a saucer while standing to the left. Both the business accountant and Primary business manager would hold and gesture to charts and and argue on the opposite side of the operating table from Dr Bhullar and “the colonel” and a receptionist holding a phone to his ear. Dr Sahi or Dr Randhawa shuttleing the surgical patients in and out as we operated. Occasionally complaining about the temperature of the tea, Dr Bhullar could accomplish a canine ovariohysterectomy in under 4 minutes cut to close, whilst simultaneously having a phone call and refereeing a fight between accountant and manager. I have delightful memories of working safely within the eye of his tornadoe. I still believe he only hired me because my hair was past my belt line, I had facial hair, I wore a silver bracelet, I had a comb in my pocket, a knife on my belt, and the look of someone with good taste in underwear.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

Punjabi swear words are the best!

 

[Gyakuto]

Punjabi swear words are the best!

Ohh twadi….

 

[Gyakuto]

When I was 20 I was hired by a veterinarian named Karambir Bhullar. He was extraordinarily kind to me. Only one other employee was not a Sikh. He was the most wonderful boss I ever had. I learned an incredible amount from him and he treated me better than some of his own family. Dr Bhullar would “sit“for surgery while his primary servant “ the colonel” would hold his tea on a saucer while standing to the left. Both the business accountant and Primary business manager would hold and gesture to charts and and argue on the opposite side of the operating table from Dr Bhullar and “the colonel” and a receptionist holding a phone to his ear. Dr Sahi or Dr Randhawa shuttleing the surgical patients in and out as we operated. Occasionally complaining about the temperature of the tea, Dr Bhullar could accomplish a canine ovariohysterectomy in under 4 minutes cut to close, whilst simultaneously having a phone call and refereeing a fight between accountant and manager. I have delightful memories of working safely within the eye of his tornadoe. I still believe he only hired me because my hair was past my belt line, I had facial hair, I wore a silver bracelet, I had a comb in my pocket, a knife on my belt, and the look of someone with good taste in underwear.

I’ve always found a certain…dignity and honour amongst my parent’s Sikh friends. I seems to be a definitive trait, if that’s possible.

 

[Gyakuto]

I have a friend who has just bought a sword from a famous Japanese dealer and is a little worried about it being seized and destroyed on arriving on these shores. She felt that being upfront and honest was the best policy, but I wonder if that might come back to bite her!

The sword dealer is currently applying for a permit from the Japanese Agency of Cultural Affairs, to export the sword. The purchaser asked the dealer on strategies to facilitate the swords smooth delivery to her address and the dealer said they had little experience in this (!) but suggested she contacted U.K. Customs on her intent to import a Japanese, antique sword. HMRC said they’d calculate the import tax and bill her when it arrived in the U.K., but suggested she should contact the Home Office about her intent and for ‘advice’ on it’s import. She has done this and awaits a response.

I think the uncertainty in all this, especially on the dealer’s side, is quite disconcerting, but that’s the state of play. I’ll keep you informed as to whether her honesty was the best course of action!

My friend still hasn’t received her antique sword. It seems the major couriers in Japan will no longer export swords from Japan. There’s one left that the dealer is in negotiations with and may agree to export her purchase. This is quite a precarious situation for her.

 

[isshinryuronin]

My friend still hasn’t received her antique sword. It seems the major couriers in Japan will no longer export swords from Japan.

There were a lot of Japanese katanas being sold and traded in the US during the 1970's and into the 90's. Everything from less valuable WWII ones to those of the 1700's and 1800's. Don't know where they are now, but somebody's got them, lucky SOB's. I wish I'd gotten one while the gettin' was good.

 

[Gyakuto]

There were a lot of Japanese katanas being sold and traded in the US during the 1970's and into the 90's. Everything from less valuable WWII ones to those of the 1700's and 1800's. Don't know where they are now, but somebody's got them, lucky SOB's. I wish I'd gotten one while the gettin' was good.

Yes indeed and also bought shares in Apple and Microsoft! The ‘retrospective scope’ is a powerful instrument…

 

[Hot Lunch]

During a robbery gone wrong my brother in law was stabbed a single time with a tiny pocket knife, just over an inch long and it didn't have a locking blade, and he is very lucky to be with us today. A big part of it was that he got hit in the liver but I was also shocked by how deep that little blade penetrated with an adrenaline fueled strike behind it. Terrifying stuff. I would take even a small blade seriously in the hands of a determined attacker.

I've cut myself many times mishandling knifes and blades of multi-tools. And the blade of the Swiss Army Knife is, by far, the easiest one to cut yourself with. They may be small, but they're exceptionally sharp.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

I've cut myself many times mishandling knifes and blades of multi-tools. And the blade of the Swiss Army Knife is, by far, the easiest one to cut yourself with. They may be small, but they're exceptionally sharp.

I found a victorinox in a phone booth when I was 5-6 years old, cut myself on the saw immediately.