Prince_Alarming
Master Black Belt
You guys just have cooler names for techniques
To Win or Not to Lose?
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In Jow Ga Kung Fu this is the beginner technique taught on day one.
Wing Woo Gar
Grandmaster
Trapping with gloves isn’t going to happen the same way as with bare hands.
Wing Woo Gar
Grandmaster
I don’t think of that as technique, rather a concept. Many people prefer to target with only the first 2 knuckles, I won’t call that technique, I call that a concept. My nomenclature is only important to me, people may have six different names for a kick that I call outward horizontal kick.
Wing Woo Gar
Grandmaster
Some, but some are not obvious, because there are poetic descriptors in the name. “ 2 children worship the Buddha” or “Monkey steals peach” are good examples that don’t tell you anything unless you have seen the technique work.
isshinryuronin
Senior Master
Motobu called using two hands together meotode/mefutode, husband and wife.
Yes. However, your opponent evaded your punch. As I mentioned, when one tries to control an opponent’s guard in the on guard position, the opponent can evade/counter. At 57:31, Burton Richardson makes the same point in discussing Mason and trapping.
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May 9, 2025
In sparring competitions like Ding Hao, Qi La La, Bagua, etc., there is no apparent “trapping” If you have a CMA competition video with trapping, please post it.
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Can you use this in sparring? I believe you can if you use this as your 1st strike when your opponent is on guard.
1. You throw a fake right punch to bait your opponent to block it.
2. You then use left hand to redirect your opponent's block.
3. You then change your right fake punch into a real punch.
In this video, 1 is missing, but 2,3 are there.
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Please post a CMA sparring competition, not a demo or movie. I have posted boxing and MMA competition trapping like Burton talks about.Can you use this in sparring? I believe you can if you use this as your 1st strike when your opponent is on guard.
isshinryuronin
Senior Master
You can get this same effect without the second step. Throw your punch 1/3 or 1/2 way. The opponent will tense and maybe get a block started. Stopping it short for a half-second will cause him to relax. Then you continue the punch, catching the opponent off-guard. This is called "stuttering" in Parker's kenpo. Also works very well with a front kick. I've landed those many times, setting it up with a full front kick or two.
Andy Allen said,
"Motobu coined the term ‘husband and wife hands’, or ‘mefutode’. He wrote,
'When facing an opponent in a combative posture it is important to know the lead hand can be used to deal with both offensive and defensive issues. The lead hand can be used for both protecting and attacking concurrently. The rear hand is used as a reserve if and when the front hand cannot accomplish the intended outcome. Then mefutode can be used for both offense and defense.'
Motobu criticized the practice of chambering the rear hand at the hip poised to strike as this eliminated its potential as a defensive weapon...."
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You are right.
- For striking art, step 2 may not be that important. You just want to land your fist on your opponent's face.
- For grappling art, step 2 is the most important part. You want to control your opponent's leading arm.
