The Truth About Traditional Martial Arts

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Lots to think about from the first couple of videos here by Adam Chan.

What are Traditional Martial Arts?
What about McDojos?
Are you aware of the history?

And much, much more....
 

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What are Traditional Martial Arts?
TMA is you try to develop 1 MA skill that you can do better than everybody else on this planet. Anybody wants to learn that skill, they have to come to you.

Someone drilled this punch non-stop from one city to another city. Nobody could block his powerful punch in fighting. This is TMA.

 

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The truth about "Traditional" Martial Arts?
A likely explanation for their downfall is that the purpose and intent they had at their inception is no longer apparent nor needed in today's society.

As far as I am aware, most 'martial' arts were purposefully developed in the occurrence of war or similar event.
The French's parkour originated in the same way, a modern rendition of Qigong I suppose.

I am sure this process will continue to be adopted once again in the unlikely advent that close range encounters are seen in war.

Note: I didn't watch the videos, just thought this is an interesting topic.
 
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TMA is you try to develop 1 MA skill that you can do better than everybody else on this planet. Anybody wants to learn that skill, they have to come to you.

Someone drilled this punch non-stop from one city to another city. Nobody could block his powerful punch in fighting. This is TMA.

Man, you come right out of a comic book 不
 

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Man, you come right out of a comic book 不
The reason that I cross trained the Zimen system because the Zimen master Xiong Jian-Xun had used his fingertips to hit on his opponent's chest and caused his opponent to vomit blood for the next 10 years. I wanted to learn how he did.

There are many reasons for cross training. It may not be for competition.
 
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The reason that I cross trained the Zimen system because the Zimen master Xiong Jian-Xun had used his fingertips to hit on his opponent's chest and caused his opponent to vomit blood for the next 10 years. I wanted to learn how he did.

There are many reasons for cross training. It may not be for competition.
You have a great sense of fun Mr. Wang :D

Your replies contain lines which remind me of the old Kung-Fu flicks
 
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What is the TMA to you if it's not for developing combat skill/ability?
Have you watched the videos four videos by Adam Chan? This is a martial arts discussion board. His videos are full of information that will interest martial artists. So far, it appears nobody who has commented on this thread has viewed them :confused:
 

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Lots to think about from the first couple of videos here by Adam Chan.

What are Traditional Martial Arts?
What about McDojos?
Are you aware of the history?

And much, much more....
I didn't watch them.

I don't care. I know what art I study. Call it anything you like. I will still train.

Too many people worried about what everyone else thinks. Do what you do. Enjoy it. That's all there is to it.
 

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Have you watched the videos four videos by Adam Chan? This is a martial arts discussion board. His videos are full of information that will interest martial artists. So far, it appears nobody who has commented on this thread has viewed them :confused:
I may not know what MMA is, but I do know what TMA is. I don't need anybody to redefine it for me.
 

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I may not know what MMA is, but I do know what TMA is. I don't need anybody to redefine it for me.
Definition of martial arts, Wikipedia...

Martial arts are codified systems and traditions of combat practiced for a number of reasons such as self-defense; military and law enforcement applications; competition; physical, mental, and spiritual development; entertainment; and the preservation of a nation's intangible cultural heritage.

Combat (French for fight) is a purposeful violent conflict meant to physically harm or kill the opposition. Combat may be armed (using weapons) or unarmed (not using weapons). Combat is sometimes resorted to as a method of self-defense, or can be used as a tool to impose one's will on others.
 

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Definition of martial arts, Wikipedia...

Martial arts are codified systems and traditions of combat practiced for a number of reasons such as self-defense; military and law enforcement applications; competition; physical, mental, and spiritual development; entertainment; and the preservation of a nation's intangible cultural heritage.

Combat (French for fight) is a purposeful violent conflict meant to physically harm or kill the opposition. Combat may be armed (using weapons) or unarmed (not using weapons). Combat is sometimes resorted to as a method of self-defense, or can be used as a tool to impose one's will on others.

The issue is (and the OP did the same thing) we are not using the definition to describe the act.

We are trying to make the act fit the definition.

Or basically rejecting reality and substituting our own.

And that is a poor understanding of how language works.
 

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Or basically rejecting reality and substituting our own.
I truly believe that

- self-cultivation,
- inner peace,
- spiritual enhancement,
- cultural preservation,
- fight without fighting,
- world peace,
- ...

should not be included in the combat discussion. If you punch my face and say you are doing for the world peace, I won't accept that.
 
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I truly believe that

- self-cultivation,
- inner peace,
- spiritual enhancement,
- cultural preservation,
- fight without fighting,
- world peace,
- ...

should not be included in the combat discussion. If you punch my face and say you are doing for the world peace, I won't accept that.

What about enlightenment or character as gained through hardship?

Eg.
 

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Have you watched the videos four videos by Adam Chan? This is a martial arts discussion board. His videos are full of information that will interest martial artists. So far, it appears nobody who has commented on this thread has viewed them :confused:
I've watched the first two videos. I have some commentary, but I'm waiting until I have a chance to watch the 3rd and 4th before I post a reaction.
 

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What about enlightenment or character as gained through hardship?

Eg.
I also like to separate street fight from ring sparring and mat wrestling. This way, we don't have to involve legal issue into our discussion.

With the attitude of "I'll sue you if you dare to touch me." We can't discuss MA freely.
 

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Taekwondo is to grow as a person.
Aikido to grow as a spiritual being
Will you say to develop combat skill/ability is the main goal of TMA training?

I believe TKD master Jhoon Rhee once said that if you can use your side kick to knock down all your opponents, you are a good TKD guy.
 
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