The American Thinker Slaps Down Global Warming

[Big Don]

In this article are included almost SIX HUNDRED separate things (some of which Directly Contradict each other) that have been blamed on Global Warming.
Interesting.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/11/everything_is_caused_by_global.html

 

[Empty Hands]

What effects global warming would be predicted to have has no bearing on whether or not it is occuring. David Icke could claim that global warming will cause our Lizardoid alien overlords to exterminate all life on Earth and it would say nothing about the data that shows whether or not global warming is occuring.

 

[bushidomartialarts]

The United States is the only industrialized nation that even accepts doubt of the existence of global warming.

The debate of whether or not we humans caused it is still out in the international community -- but only just.

The debate of whether or not it's actually an emergency is also still out. Doomsday scenarios don't help. When you hear people hollering that the temperature change will kill all the bats and flood New York City, people don't take it seriously. Which means that when people point to substantial evidence that global warming is linked to heavier weather and faster desertification...well, people don't take that seriously either.

I tire of the doomsayers and people who use the issue (on either side) for political cache. Here I'm talking to you Al Gore and you George Bush.

 

[tellner]

An emergency? The scientific consensus is definitely "yes". That doesn't mean NYC will be underwater next year. But the temperature change, ice reduction and date of first permanent disappearance of inhabited land are all more rapid than the previous "fast case" scenarios. It's real. It's happening now. It's happening quickly. And the final results are still unknown.

 

[Makalakumu]

The problem is that humans just don't live long enough to really understand these things. One generation of humans barely lives long enough to witness even a fraction of the change. There are so many things I could say about this, but one thing that keeps coming to mind is that we are poorly evolved species when it comes to dealing with global environmental issues. Our lifespan is just too short and there are too many of us who have decided to cover their eyes and pretend that nothing ever changes.

It's human through and through.

 

[Big Don]

An emergency? The scientific consensus is definitely "yes". That doesn't mean NYC will be underwater next year. But the temperature change, ice reduction and date of first permanent disappearance of inhabited land are all more rapid than the previous "fast case" scenarios. It's real. It's happening now. It's happening quickly. And the final results are still unknown.

Consensuses have been woefully wrong in the past, and are not, therefore, science.
The world is, neither flat, nor the center of the universe. Earth, Fire, Wind and Water are not all the elements. These were all scientific consensuses at their times.
Science is fact that can be proven and reproduced, i.e., a stone dropped from a fixed height will always fall to the ground at the same speed, this is how we prove gravity, it will not fall sideways or upwards things only fall to the ground.

 

[Makalakumu]

Look, if its just to hard to grasp, give up! Smarter people will solve your problems...

 

[Ray]

Consensuses have been woefully wrong in the past, and are not, therefore, science.
The world is, neither flat, nor the center of the universe. Earth, Fire, Wind and Water are not all the elements. These were all scientific consensuses at their times.
Science is fact that can be proven and reproduced, i.e., a stone dropped from a fixed height will always fall to the ground at the same speed, this is how we prove gravity, it will not fall sideways or upwards things only fall to the ground.

As science learns more about a thing, scientists propose better explanations of why a thing is the way it is. The explanation may change as knowledge grows. Scientific fact is consensus of the scientists. Sometimes it takes a while for science to accept a new explanation.

 

[Big Don]

As science learns more about a thing, scientists propose better explanations of why a thing is the way it is. The explanation may change as knowledge grows. Scientific fact is consensus of the scientists. Sometimes it takes a while for science to accept a new explanation.

If fact is nothing more than a consensus of scientists, then the earth really was flat, and the center of the universe, because that is what the scientists of the time agreed. Belief cannot alter fact. If it did I'd have a washboard stomach, some other assorted awesomeness in physical appearance and be the baddest Mofo on two legs in sparring...

There are far too many politicians involved in global warming for anyone to take it seriously. Politicians are well known for being untrustworthy, but the IPCC says "Global warming is a threat" and they are believed? These people have a vested interest in global warming being considered a threat. Gore, for example buys carbon credits from a company he owns... he's a pretty good salesman...

Facts are indisputable, global warming is disputed by a fairly large number of actual scientists and believed by an alarming number of politicians. That ought to be a pretty good indicator something isn't quite right...

The biggest problem I have with the idea of global warming is the overwhelming arrogance of it. We have virtually no understanding of how weather works, and yet, some claim our actions can alter it? I'd be more apt to believe that were the 5 day forecast ever 100% correct...

TV weathermen are the ONLY people outside of government service or elected office that can be completely wrong 100% of the time and stay employed.

 

[MA-Caver]

The way I see it... the Earth has been around for hundreds of millions of years. Humans have been around far less than that. Humans have begun understanding the earth and it's climate(s) far less than THAT.
How do we KNOW that this isn't a regular cycle that the earth goes through every ... ohh, 10,000 years or so... (a blink of an eye in geological time). The dinosaurs went through their cycle... mebbe we'll be doing the same thing.
Oh sure we are polluting the atmosphere and the oceans and all of that... and it's terrible, and I'd dare say it is having an effect upon the earth. Upon the biological species of the earth but I'm not quite sure if it's effecting the effect is enough to change the climate and how the earth is (continually) forming.

We should continue to prepare for whatever this unknown planet is going to give us in terms of climatological changes. Either that or end up as ice cream bars.

 

[Ray]

If fact is nothing more than a consensus of scientists, then the earth really was flat, and the center of the universe, because that is what the scientists of the time agreed. Belief cannot alter fact. If it did I'd have a washboard stomach, some other assorted awesomeness in physical appearance and be the baddest Mofo on two legs in sparring...

There are far too many politicians involved in global warming for anyone to take it seriously. Politicians are well known for being untrustworthy, but the IPCC says "Global warming is a threat" and they are believed? These people have a vested interest in global warming being considered a threat. Gore, for example buys carbon credits from a company he owns... he's a pretty good salesman...

Facts are indisputable, global warming is disputed by a fairly large number of actual scientists and believed by an alarming number of politicians. That ought to be a pretty good indicator something isn't quite right...

The biggest problem I have with the idea of global warming is the overwhelming arrogance of it. We have virtually no understanding of how weather works, and yet, some claim our actions can alter it? I'd be more apt to believe that were the 5 day forecast ever 100% correct...

TV weathermen are the ONLY people outside of government service or elected office that can be completely wrong 100% of the time and stay employed.

Fact : Things fall. Scientific fact is the accepted explanation of why things fall; Scientific fact gets closer and closer to the "truth" all the time.

 

[Cruentus]

Don,

What is your actual position on global warming? Do you believe it is not occuring, or do you believe that it is occuring but that it isn't a threat, or what?

I am curious because you naysay it, but I am not clear on what you actually believe.

 

[Big Don]

Don,

What is your actual position on global warming? Do you believe it is not occuring, or do you believe that it is occuring but that it isn't a threat, or what?

I am curious because you naysay it, but I am not clear on what you actually believe.

It may be occurring, however, we don't have the power to change it. When Mount Pinatubo erupted in the Philippines a few years ago it put all kinds of crap out into the air, more sulfur dioxide, CO2 and other pollutants than mankind can pump out in a century of industry, and yet, changing to CFL light bulbs is going to make things better?
I am a global warming (Pay attention, I am about to coin a profundity!) agnostic. I don't know if global warming is happening, but, I believe we are neither powerful, nor capable enough to have any effect on it.
There is so much information that stands in direct contradiction to the idea of human caused (or even influenced) global warming that to force changes on people in the form of taxes, fees and banning products is nothing more than a simply amazing degree of arrogance.
The warmest year on record is 1934, when there was a dramatically smaller amount of industry, a much more agrarian and hence, rural society with only a tiny fraction of the automobiles that are on the road today, but, we are supposed to drive less, because global warming is going to kill us all? Kind of hard to believe that.

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[FONT=times new roman,times] That is the list from the original article, notice how there are more than a few things that global warming is supposed to have caused that clearly and directly contradict each other. That makes it hard to believe... That believers in global warming want skeptics silenced REALLY makes it hard to believe. If it was a fact, skeptics would be laughed at, but, to suggest legal sanctions against them would be like locking up little kids who don't believe in Santa. The sheer number of politicians involved in promoting fear of global warming ought to tell you something.
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[Blindside]

[FONT=times new roman,times]That is the list from the original article, notice how there are more than a few things that global warming is supposed to have caused that clearly and directly contradict each other. That makes it hard to believe... [/FONT]

Though global warming is a global (duh) event, effects may be localized differently. Assuming that global warming happens, a increase in temperature in North America might cause the grain belt to shift north, so harvest yields in OK, KS, and NE might decrease, on the other hand Manitoba and Saskatchewan might benefit, resulting directly contradictory impacts.

Similarly, southern areas would presumably lose snowpack, resulting in fewer avalanches, northern areas might get more freeze/thaw/freeze patterns in their winter snowpack resulting in more frequent shear surfaces that increase avalanch dangers.

I'm not saying that is why these examples were given, but just giving examples of why you might see such contradictory findings, and that just because they are contradictory doesn't mean they are invalid.

Lamont

 

[Andrew Green]

[FONT=times new roman,times] That is the list from the original article, notice how there are more than a few things that global warming is supposed to have caused that clearly and directly contradict each other. That makes it hard to believe... That believers in global warming want skeptics silenced REALLY makes it hard to believe. If it was a fact, skeptics would be laughed at, but, to suggest legal sanctions against them would be like locking up little kids who don't believe in Santa. The sheer number of politicians involved in promoting fear of global warming ought to tell you something.
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There is pretty much a consensus that global warming and climate change are occurring. That is accepted.

What is in question is what the long term effects are going to be, some of the factors that have led to it, and if it can be stopped.

Denying a theory based on contradicting hypothesis about pieces of a problem that the theory does not yet explain is a strawman. That's like denying a Christmas present exists because different people have conflicting guesses about what is inside it.

 

[5-0 Kenpo]

There is pretty much a consensus that global warming and climate change are occurring. That is accepted.

What is in question is what the long term effects are going to be, some of the factors that have led to it, and if it can be stopped.

Denying a theory based on contradicting hypothesis about pieces of a problem that the theory does not yet explain is a strawman. That's like denying a Christmas present exists because different people have conflicting guesses about what is inside it.

And thats the problem. Hypothesis, not fact.

Remember one thing, scientific epistimology states that nothing can be known as 100% true.

Now, having said that, try proving the cause of an effect to an open system which has thousands of different influences, some of which are certainly not still known.

I will not necessarily deny that the earth may be warming. However, trying to find the most prevelant cause of the warming is very difficult.

 

[dragonswordkata]

I was glad to see this disscusion didn't rely on the intelectual and scientific wisdom of not only the head in the sand folks nor the sign carrying doom sayers.
I wish that more of society was as articulate, respectful and well spoken as are here on Martail talk.

 

[Andrew Green]

I will not necessarily deny that the earth may be warming. However, trying to find the most prevelant cause of the warming is very difficult.

Well, we know that greenhouse gases cause warming. That is established.

We know that greenhouse gases are higher now then they have ever been.

We know that this is do to human actions.

So to completely deny that humans have anything to do with the earths climate getting warmer is pretty hard to do with a straight face IMO. We might not be the only cause, but we are one of the causes.

 

[Xue Sheng]

Hey, it is really not that big a deal, as one of my professors said in College some scientists feel the Earth just might be self correcting and that is what you really have to worry about, how does it self corrects if you mess it up enough and will any of us (meaning humans) survive that correction.

So is global warming occurring, yup. Will it make things better lusher and greener, maybe. But in some areas with that come all sorts of nasty little things that are currently relegated to warmer climates. In other areas there will be I one heck of a lot more ice than there use to be. Mess with the climate and it will bite you.

And as previously mentioned, we are not here long enough to notice the aftermath of what is or could be occurring right now. Melt enough ice and dump ALL that fresh water into the oceans and you will shut down the oceanic conveyor belt system, but don’t worry about that, you won’t be here to see what that really does but your great grand kids will.

Americans think a week is a long time, Chinese think 100 years is a long time but the planet works on geological time and 100 years is not really all that long to the planet

 

[tellner]

Science doesn't prove anything. Ever. But eventually, with enough evidence you can say "I'm leaning towards", "I'm pretty sure" or "I'm very very confident" about something. Disproof comes easily.

There is no doubt whatsoever that the climate is getting warmer and has been for about 150 years. There is no doubt that the rate has accelerated in the past twenty years. And there is no doubt that it has tracked the rise in CO2 levels remarkably closely. There just isn't any evidence to the contrary and plenty of evidence for it. Detailed weather reports over three hundred years in the Bordeaux region, ice core data, direct measurement of temperature, measurement of the Earth's albedo, indirect measurement of past temperature by means other than ice cores and several others with which I am not sufficiently familiar to comment are all in general agreement. Those are very robust data.

There isn't proof positive about how much of this is due to human activity. But there is a lot of evidence to that effect. There is no evidence that it is due to changes in solar radiation, random fluctuations or anything else for which we have any sort of plausible model or unambiguous supporting data.

The theoretical models we have are pretty robust and are very good for climatology. They explain the vast bulk of the data and seem to be borne out by new data as they arrive. Unfortunately, the ones that do the best job are also the most pessimistic.

The detractors started off saying "It couldn't possibly happen" and then moved on to "It isn't happening", "It looks like it's happening, but it really isn't", "It's happening, but it's not our fault", "It's happening but we can't do anything about it", "It's happening, but it's a good thing", "It's happening but it would cost too much to do anything" and are now at "Anyone who believes it's happening is a Commie who hates America". They offer no evidence, no data, no theoretical underpinnings other than cherrypicking to try and poke holes in the margins and thereby discredit the solid center.

There is nobody in climatology, planetary science, oceanography or atmospheric science who is outside the consensus on this one. There is one Dane who, it turns out, is having his salary paid by the oil companies. And even he has changed his tune to "It's happening, but there's nothing to be done. Bugger you Jack, I've got mine." The founder of the Weather Channel and a political pundit with no scientific training or history of working in the field do not count. Neither does the Tobacco and Oil Lobby hired gun who calls everything environmental-related "junk science".

The only questions at this point are "how much?", "how fast?", "what results?", and "what can we do?". We don't know everything, but we know an awful lot, and what we know is not promising. We are already seeing large systemic changes. Permafrost which has been solid since the last glaciation is melting in Siberia and Canada. Inhabited land is now permanently under water. There have been open seas to the North Pole for the first time in recorded history. There has been a striking and continuous loss of ice in the Antarctic and a retreat of glaciers worldwide from Kilimanjaro to Glacier National Park and Kashmir. Pinot noir grapes are failing in Napa because the temperature has risen too far, and they are beginning to be viable in British Columbia.

And so on.

These are simple verifiable facts.

The deniers offer no science of their own except the most hypothetical. One side has offered falsifiable predictions and robust evidence from a variety of sources. The other is reduced to calling the scientists names and instructing political hacks to edit the conclusions of government studies to more closely approximate the Administration's frankly science-hostile preconceptions.