It depends where your hands are to start. If I'm already in a fence or guard, my hands are in position 1, so that's the faster punch. If they are down (I'm surprised, or I'm trying to draw them in from a distance), my hands are closer to 2, so that's faster.
Unfortunately, there are damnably few ranges I have found where draw-and-fire is even allowed. With so little practice opportunity, I only practiced #1, but firing starts from the moment the gun is oriented (like DD said), rather than at full extension. I used to also practice dry-fire (with snap caps) on the draw, still focusing on #1. Since I no longer carry, I don't practice draw much.
Well, yes but no.
True. And ammo is expensive, which is why I'd rather put rounds on target.
Civilians? You mean like Police?
Every dictionary I have access to defines Civilian as:
But if you put your gun in your pocket, that will be similar to wearing a hip holster. The idea is to shot the moment that the gun is out of your pocket.
Generic definition, not the legal one. And, more particularly, this is a very recent shift in the usage of the term. Traditionally, and legally, the term "Civilian" meant someone not serving in the Military.
Am aware of the above.
Then what's the argument? I was accurate when I pointed out that, legally (ref USLegal and IHL), police are, in fact, "civilians," which is why they are often referred to as "the civilian police forces." Why throw out simple dictionary definitions?
