no bias in the media?

[Archangel M]

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CNN’s Susan Roesgen, an alleged “reporter” covering the Chicago Tea Party, lashed out at the participants like an angry MoveOn.org member. “What does this have to do with taxes?” she demanded of one attendee, as he held his 2-year old and spoke of personal liberty. “Don’t you realize you’re eligible for a tax credit,” she shouted at him. “Don’t you know that Illinois is getting stimulus money?”

 

[Cryozombie]

Illinois is getting Stimulus money, but Taxes are increasing. Oh wait... thats not accurate. Chicago is instituting a NEW tax, but the oppressive sales tax is being reduced by... ready? 1/4 of a percent.

Stimulus money. Bah.

 

[Thesemindz]

As though we shouldn't care about theft perpetrated against others, as long as it isn't perpetrated against ourselves.

Susan Roesgen is the worst kind of person, because she is perfectly content to profit from suffering, as long as it is the suffering of others.


-Rob

 

[Big Don]

Roesgen railed about FOX news promoting the Tea Parties, and yet, failed to get a job there, twice.

 

[blindsage]

This is not reporting. Not sure what you call it. Divisive sensationalizing for ratings? Reporters should never be arguing with people on the scene.

 

[Gordon Nore]

This is not reporting. Not sure what you call it. Divisive sensationalizing for ratings? Reporters should never be arguing with people on the scene.

They have reporting on the news?

Susan Roesgen's behaviour is scandalous. Even with Fox actively promoting the Tea Partys, if not sponsoring them, and CNN actively ignoring them up to the day they ocurred, there's no excuse for her attitude towards the people she's interviewing.

 

[Cryozombie]

They have reporting on the news?

Nowhere I have seen...

 

[Hudson69]

I remember when CNN was always reporting fresh news instead of getting an hours worth of feed and then just repeating it over and over for the next five and now there is this. That gal was verbally abusive and then took a shot at FOX News. This alone was enough to get to watch Fox or MSNBC and not CNN. I have not heard anything based on fact yet about the Tea Parties either for that matter; and lets get started on the Janine Garaffolo comments.

 

[rhn_kenpo]

It isn't a question, it is a fact. Many studies, some of them actually reputable, have concluded that the unbiased mass media outlet does not (and probably never did) exist.

Explicit bias and endlessly focusing on the daily shiny-object are just some of the reasons that big media is a dying industry.

 

[grydth]

Try to even imagine an ACORN event or gun control crowd getting such condescending treatment from CNN's Thelma and Louise.

So soaring taxes have no relation to loss of freedom, huh? Laugh at that one all the way to the soup kitchen!

The main stream media long ago became discontented with merely reporting the news. Look at all the wrong choices people were making! Now, with a little shaping here, a little slanting there, a nice big lie or two...... 'Yes, here's all the things we think you should know to make the right, er, the left choices."

Call it noise, not news.

 

[Marginal]

So soaring taxes have no relation to loss of freedom, huh? Laugh at that one all the way to the soup kitchen!

Soaring?

Well, at least it's worth calling for the armed overthrow of the government over.

 

[crushing]

Soaring?

Well, at least it's worth calling for the armed overthrow of the government over.

Is that how CNN’s Susan Roesgen described the nationwide public demonstrations? Or maybe it Markos Moulitsas's descripton? They do go over the top.

 

[Thesemindz]

Soaring?

Yes soaring.

When a currency is backed by, or even made of, a real commodity of consistent value then that currencies value will also be consistent. This is why historically currencies were either made of, or backed by, precious metals which hold a constant value by weight and purity. Unfortunately for the state, this made it hard to uncontrollably increase the money supply in order to fund the many wars they wished to participate in, and so they divorced the currency from its commodity backing and left it to “float.” The reason governments can get away with this is because of the money illusion.

The money illusion refers to the tendency of most people to think of their money in nominal terms instead of real terms. For instance, many people would say that there is no nominal value difference between a five dollar bill now, a five dollar bill ten years ago, and a five dollar bill eighty years ago. However, the reality is that in the last eighty years, the five dollar note has lost so much value, that what was five dollars then would cost you nearly sixty dollars now. Here's a quick little calculator to show you how worthless your money has become. By disguising the devaluation of the currency through inflation and seigniorage, and relying on the money illusion, the state is able to hide its theft from the people.

Removing taxation would immediately reduce the cost of goods and services by more than 22 percent. Even worse, since the creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913, the federal reserve note has lost 94% of its purchasing power to inflation. Additionally, by some estimates, nearly 70% of your money goes back to the government through taxation, tariffs, and fees. This combines to reduce your purchasing power to approximately 1.8 percent of the face value of your currency. In a system with commodity based monies, you would have the full value of your currency, increasing your purchasing power by nearly 5000 percent.

But that's not the end of it. Each dollar collected by government is a dollar not invested in the growth of the economy. A mere 3 percent tax increase from 21 to 24 percent costs the economy nearly 200 percent of the value of the money taxed over 50 years. And that number increases exponentially with greater taxation. That's money that never existed, was never invested, never earned, and never spent. By removing that money from the economy, government continues to depress the standard of living of all Americans, rich and poor. What's more, in many industries, wages are growing slower than inflation, so every year, people are actually making less than the year before.

You see, taxation is soaring, but it isn't the only way the government steals money from the people. In a fiat economy, you can't control the value of your money, or by extension your asset wealth because even if you hide your money under the mattress the government can steal it's value by printing more.

Until our money is backed by real commodities again, the government will continue to steal from the people through overprinting, hyperinflation, and interest rate manipulation.

When the money is socialized, there can be no such thing as private property.
-Stefan Molyneux

-Rob

 

[blindsage]

I'm not sure your entire train of logic works since we only went off the Gold Standard in 1971. In all the years before that inflation was still at work and your thesis doesn't account for it at all. I think there may be benefits to going back to the Gold Standard or a related one, but I don't think your rationales for it add up.

 

[Archangel M]

boy has this thread gone tangential.

 

[Thesemindz]

I'm not sure your entire train of logic works since we only went off the Gold Standard in 1971. In all the years before that inflation was still at work and your thesis doesn't account for it at all. I think there may be benefits to going back to the Gold Standard or a related one, but I don't think your rationales for it add up.

Perhaps you aren't aware that our government and governments around the world suspended the gold standard during both World Wars, as well as during other hisorical wars, suppressed the value of gold through price and supply controls, cheated the gold standard by offering to exchange gold standard notes at historical, rather than current values, and when that wasn't enough to support the massive spending necessary to fund Lyndon Johnson's Great Society and the Vietnam War, finally abandoned the gold standard all together in favor of fiat currency they could print on demand.

Arguing that the gold standard proves that inflation occurs absent fiat currency would only be valid if the gold standard wasn't constantly violated by the major world powers of the day for nearly a hundred years. Inflation can occur in commodities backed economies, but only as the result of natural forces acting on the market place. In fiat currency economies, inflation is the result of artificially injecting massive amounts of currency into a closed system and supressing or inflating interest rates.

There are many, many pages on the internet describing the pattern of fiat currencies throughout history, from inception, usually in order to fund foreign adventurism, to inflation, overprinting, and devaluation, to ultimate hyperinflation and complete economic collapse.

This isn't a new idea. It's been tried by governments again and again and again. It's always followed the same pattern and ended the same way.


-Rob

 

[Thesemindz]

boy has this thread gone tangential.

True.

The original post showed what I think is a clear bias on the part of at least one media organization.

I'm not sure if anyone saw it, but John Stewart did a great bit on the daily show last week where he compared Fox News' support of the tea parties, with CNN's clear bias against them, with MSNBC making crude sexual innuendos about "teabagging" all day long.

I'd say it's clear that the infortainment networks each have an agenda, but I'm not sure which is most deplorable.


-Rob

 

[Archangel M]

And if anybody thinks that their local stations, papers and radio stations are any different I would say that they are mistaken.

 

[Thesemindz]

And if anybody thinks that their local stations, papers and radio stations are any different I would say that they are mistaken.

Most of the time, most of what is reported in the local media is just the national media story handed down the line, with a few local human interest stories thrown in for color.

Look at your local paper and compare the number of AP and Reuters bylines to the number of local stories. There isn't much being offered that's any different up or down the line.


-Rob

 

[Archangel M]

True, but all you have to do is look at the types of stories they put on display and then read the editorials. Papers have always had a "left or right lean".

Many local outlets are owned by conglomerates when you follow the money too....