That's kind of my whole thing sooo...
Caution.
Can you tell me what you mean by Caution? I understand that iron palm is dangerous without proper guidance. Or are you also cautioning chi kung?
Yes. You need a skilled teacher. It’s not as simple as reading a book.
Well thank you. You haven’t seen what it looks,Ike shaved though. More like Jason Voorhees head.Wing Woo Gar’s head is like a pleasingly shapely coconut.
Level 1.
Thank you, I'll stop all that I'm doing until I find a skilled teacher.
I think this is a good general point. One can learn an awful lot from books and particularly Yootoob Sensei/Sifu but the feedback and subtle advice that an experienced teacher gives, will speed up one’s learning enormously and help prevent misunderstandings and injury. Who would dream of trying to learn ballroom dancing or indeed singing from books/yootoob. I can be done but there’s a strong possibility that you might end up like one of ‘those contestant’ in the the initial stages of X Factor!
Oh I imagine a beautifully shape quail’s egg, tip at 20 degrees from the vertical, point orientated anteriorly and inferiorly…
Not saying you can’t study it and stretch and exercise, but some things like iron palm, bell, post, or wire can be injurious if done incorrectly over time. I can’t imagine being able to get the nuances without a teacher, but hey, I’m not you and I’m not in charge, do you. I teach an overhead punch that can wreck your shoulder if practiced incorrectly with a lot of force, just as an example, it’s not because of any mystical anything.
Oh I see what you did there, your description is soft boiled.Oh I imagine a beautifully shape quail’s egg, tip at 20 degrees from the vertical, point orientated anteriorly and inferiorly…
Very good!
That makes a lot of sense I understand now. You guys are right thank you.
I was struggling with making the correct distance in a movement in a kneeling position, where one places the blade of ones sword on the chest of one’s imaginary enemy and with the other hand on the back of the blade and pushes them over before dispatching them. I just couldn’t get the shifting around and sliding around on my knees to make it look good, not matter how hard I tried. My teacher looked at my performance and said, “Ah, it’s your set-up two moves before that’s not right. Try X, Y and Z.” Sure enough it worked. I would never have figured it out!
Excellent anecdote. Last night I was teaching and I noticed two of the beginning students were ending up crossed and out of position on a basic combo punch drill. It was because they didn’t turn the waist to cock the punch before the step. It took about 5 minutes to correct it. They had no idea why they were ending up on the wrong foot. Most times I just point out that something isn’t right hoping that they see it and figure it out without too much help. Sometimes, like last night, people need some extra help.
I don't know about that, but the medicine helps me for sure and I don't have his problem. Maybe I did train as hard as he did. I don't like to train on my fingers. I also don't like to train on the back of my palm.
By way of example, when Tibetan Crane is done correctly all the movements are natural and should not cause injury to yourself. However, in the process of learning the method it is inevitable that it will NOT be done correctly, probably for some time. It takes a lot of repetition and repetitious corrections from a teacher who knows what he/she is talking about, before the student is consistently doing it correctly. If you do it incorrectly for long enough, you will end up with wrecked knees, wrecked shoulders, and wrecked lower back. Proper instruction is important. This is an example of how the physical training can injure you if you try and go it alone, without good instruction. My example of Tibetan Crane is especially appropriate here because it is a method that, to most people, looks odd. People do not know what to make of it. So it is very easy to get it wrong.
I do recognize that I'm in an early stage in my training. Also I've never considered the defensive applications from any of the movements so that makes me a newbie compared to a lot of people here. My experience this far is really monkey see monkey do. And learning the forms from youtube really forced me to slow everything down and internalize it until I get the smooth and coordinated flow to where I can do it quickly and it feels right. I definitely was not making an argument for training without a teacher though. I would love to have a teacher I'm probably initial stage X factor lol. I've just seen monks who demonstrate luohan quan that I don't care too much about and other monks who I'd much rather imitate. Even if it's just a personal preference.
