Mexico accused over migrant abuse

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Mexico accused over migrant abuse
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Migrants in Mexico are facing a "major human rights crisis" as the authorities fail to tackle widespread abuses, Amnesty International has warned.
The human rights group said officials ignored or even played a part in the rape, kidnap, and murder of migrants, often carried out by criminal gangs.
Tens of thousands of Central American migrants pass through Mexico every year to try to reach the US and find work.
Mexico has often stated its commitment to the protection of migrants.
Amnesty called on Mexico's government to "prevent, punish and remedy abuses".
"Migrants in Mexico are facing a major human rights crisis leaving them with virtually no access to justice, fearing reprisals and deportation if they complain of abuses," said Rupert Knox, who contributed to the report, Invisible Victims: Migrants on the Move.
"Persistent failure by the authorities to tackle abuses carried out against irregular migrants has made their journey through Mexico one of the most dangerous in the world," he added.
Amnesty's report may not come as a surprise to those who have made or tried to make the difficult journey through Mexico, the BBC's Julian Miglierini reports from Mexico City.
But its release comes just after the Mexican government denounced a new tough immigration law in Arizona as a human rights violation.

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But its release comes just after the Mexican government denounced a new tough immigration law in Arizona as a human rights violation.
As martial artists, we know how important timing is...
 

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As martial artists, we know how important timing is...

Mexico is bad, therefore any anti-illegal immigration law we care to pass is good.

Christ.

Meanwhile, both Tom Tancredo and Marco Rubio have come out against the bill. Both are considered as "true conservatives" and Tancredo in particular is very vocal against illegal immigration.

I expect the RINO label any day now.
 

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Mexico is bad, therefore any anti-illegal immigration law we care to pass is good.

No, but it will be a good thing if, by exposing the hypocrisy of Mexico's treatment of their illegal immigrants, they are compelled to change their policies. Anyone who is upset about the plight of illegal immigrants in the US should be horrified by what Mexico does.

The situation in Arizona is crazy, but some good can come of it if Mexico changes its ways.
 

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No, but it will be a good thing if, by exposing the hypocrisy of Mexico's treatment of their illegal immigrants, they are compelled to change their policies. Anyone who is upset about the plight of illegal immigrants in the US should be horrified by what Mexico does.

The situation in Arizona is crazy, but some good can come of it if Mexico changes its ways.

Do you really think that is the intent of this string of posts?

Everyone knows Mexico encourages border immigration to the US, while shooting it's own border jumpers from Central America to the south. Everyone knows Mexico is a stew of crime and corruption. Why do the bad deeds of Mexico somehow legitimize laws being passed here? It is a blatant attempt at bad faith distraction. Don has specifically brought up the actions of the Mexican government in multiple posts to somehow show that whatever we do here is just fine.

The Mexican government is hypocritical. Wow, big shock, it's also a cesspool of corruption. Mexico is irrelevant to laws being passed here.
 

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Do you really think that is the intent of this string of posts?

Everyone knows Mexico encourages border immigration to the US, while shooting it's own border jumpers from Central America to the south. Everyone knows Mexico is a stew of crime and corruption. Why do the bad deeds of Mexico somehow legitimize laws being passed here? It is a blatant attempt at bad faith distraction. Don has specifically brought up the actions of the Mexican government in multiple posts to somehow show that whatever we do here is just fine.

The Mexican government is hypocritical. Wow, big shock, it's also a cesspool of corruption. Mexico is irrelevant to laws being passed here.

I don't care what the 'intent of this string of posts' is. But I would like to see Mexico stop beating, raping, and shooting the immigrants who come over their border. Hate Arizona all you want, but they don't do that.

Oh, and Mexico is very relevant to the laws being passed here. It is their broken system that provides the incentive for people to emigrate. So here's a thought: every intrusive policy we enact for ourselves, from healthcare to seatbelt laws to dietary policies, are justified by the fact that they cost us money. "Your lifestyle is costing us money, so we get to tell you what to do." Well, Mexico's policies are costing us a LOT of money. Perhaps the time has come for us to offer some of that enlightened guidance to them.
 
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Mexico is bad, therefore any anti-illegal immigration law we care to pass is good.

Christ.

Meanwhile, both Tom Tancredo and Marco Rubio have come out against the bill. Both are considered as "true conservatives" and Tancredo in particular is very vocal against illegal immigration.

I expect the RINO label any day now.

Why would they be labeled as Rinos?
It is not a really big secret that most politicians would like to legalize the millions and millions of illegal aliens out there.. I really could care less what Tancredo or Rubio think about Illegal Immigration as long as they do what the people want... and the most recent polls show that a number of Americans closing in on 70% support the new laws in Arizona ans want to see them implemented in their own states as well.
Thats not tyranny of the majority either, because similar polls also who that even larger numbers of people are open to an increase in legal immigration as well.
All it means is that people want to protect our borders, screen out criminals, and those that would do harm to our country, and keep track of those that are here for the right reasons(to work, to participate, to advance themselves legally) and make sure they are paying their fair share and not taking advantage of our systems.

So whats your real problem? Hate Republicans? The more of your posts I read the more it seems you want to make the right look bad, rather then actually argue the merits of the discussion...
 
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I don't like the Arizona law either, BECAUSE, IT IS REDUNDANT! Were the federal government to do its job, and deal with the MILLIONS of illegal immigrants, the Arizona law wouldn't have been necessary.
 

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Mexico has been abusing her citizens for decades upon decades ... but human rights activists wait until the passage of the Arizona law to do anything? Smells like crap to me.

Yeah, let's wait until our economic system relies so heavily on illegal labor that an exodus of aliens from the US could collapse agricultural infrastructure and leave a whole lot of wealthy houses VERY dusty and grimy.

:barf:

Too much law and WAY too late. And Don - I agree. If the feds would do their ****ing job, this would NOT be necessary.

We have a structure in place to allow legal immigration and naturalization. We have the ability to track the activities of temporary residents and help expedite follow-up action to their visa expiration - but we don't. The structure isn't working because federal workers are not held accountable for doing a ****** job.

We can remain a human-rights nation without destroying ourselves or passing laws that negate the purpose of the country. We just ... don't.
 

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Do you really think that is the intent of this string of posts?

Everyone knows Mexico encourages border immigration to the US, while shooting it's own border jumpers from Central America to the south. Everyone knows Mexico is a stew of crime and corruption. Why do the bad deeds of Mexico somehow legitimize laws being passed here? It is a blatant attempt at bad faith distraction. Don has specifically brought up the actions of the Mexican government in multiple posts to somehow show that whatever we do here is just fine.

The Mexican government is hypocritical. Wow, big shock, it's also a cesspool of corruption. Mexico is irrelevant to laws being passed here.

What is does is show the hypocricy of the Mexican government, as well as the Mexican people, in calling Americans racist for not allowing illegal immigrants to become citizens. Therefore, on a moral level, their outcries are selfish, self-centered, and irrelevant.
 
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