Elmond Leung/Ben Der

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Has anyone trained under either of these 2 teachers (Elmond Leung in Burlingame CA and Ben Der in San Jose CA)?
 

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Has anyone trained under either of these 2 teachers (Elmond Leung in Burlingame CA and Ben Der in San Jose CA)?
I met Elmond once about 35 years ago, I think. Back then he was a straight up Leung Ting guy (as was I at the time). He's been on his own for a long time and with a lifetime in Wing Tsun/Wing Chun he should have a world of knowlege. If you have a chance to train with him, please post back and let us know what you thought!
 

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But on the other hand...
Ben Der is long time student/training partner of Kenneth Cheung. I have had the opportunity to workout with several of Ken Cheung students/grandstudents and I have always been very impressed by their attention to detail, expressions of power, live training methods.
Of the lineages I've trained with, probably my favorite. Except for mine, of course :cool:

So if you're looking for a new school, you owe it to yourself to visit both of these.
And then let us know what you think...!
 

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If you visit the Ben Der school, just make sure you get the right guy.

This one is not a great role model:

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Sadly, Sifu Elmond Leung died in 2020.

I believe his students still teach in SF area.
My Si Pak and Si Sok spoke very highly of him.
 
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I met Elmond once about 35 years ago, I think. Back then he was a straight up Leung Ting guy (as was I at the time). He's been on his own for a long time and with a lifetime in Wing Tsun/Wing Chun he should have a world of knowlege. If you have a chance to train with him, please post back and let us know what you thought!
I was watching Sifu Alan Richter podcast out of New York, and he had mention on his show that Sifu Elmond Leung passed away April of 2020. The is under, I believe a Sifu Matyas Tamas.

 
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Dominic82555

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But on the other hand...
Ben Der is long time student/training partner of Kenneth Cheung. I have had the opportunity to workout with several of Ken Cheung students/grandstudents and I have always been very impressed by their attention to detail, expressions of power, live training methods.
Of the lineages I've trained with, probably my favorite. Except for mine, of course :cool:

So if you're looking for a new school, you owe it to yourself to visit both of these.
And then let us know what you think...!
I've sat in on a number of classes under Ben Der and I've never seen any combat drills (applications) at all. I'm wondering what I am missing? smh None of their video show any applications to mention as you may with in other WC schools.
 
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I was watching Sifu Alan Richter podcast out of New York, and he had mention on his show that Sifu Elmond Leung passed away April of 2020. The is under, I believe a Sifu Matyas Tamas.

*school is under
 
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Dominic82555

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I don't mind and if I have to travel, in my case, between 1:30 to 1:45 minutes to a WC school, but I'm not traveling that distance 2-3 times a week for the fun of it.:)
 
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