Blaze Dragon
Blue Belt
I wanted to start a new thread about this, though it was sparked by another thread. I hear a lot of mention of teachers in China. I hear about how they are superior in method, tradition and technique. Now I'm not arguing this, however I am confused. Heres my confusion...
now all this is based upon documentaries and internet research, so it's questionable. Thus I ask members of MT
I was under the impression that Chinese martial arts was outlawed in China. Thus the Boxer rebellion in 1902. I was under the impression that even today that "real" martial arts in China is still out lawed.
So other things I was under the impression of and was curious as to how accurate this is, have you heard the same, or can you confirm it as accurate or direct me to what the real truth is please.
1) Chinese martial arts was outlawed so the boxers (CMA practitioners) went into hiding and it's hard to find real deal in China. Or some fled the country so you might find real deal in other countries but not China.
2) Some of the CMA practitioners and masters formed the Triads, essentially what many call the Chinese mob
3) Wushu was invented which is more showy then martial and was allowed as an art and sport in place of the combat arts (this of course could be complete bull still something I had read)
4) The Shaolin monks started drinking, gambling and sleeping with whores in a type of rebellion. So the communist burned the temple and whipped the last of the monks through the streets. This lead to no more Shaolin fighting monks ect the ones that escaped and try to keep it alive under ground. Because of this like wise many now slap shaolin on there school to draw students even if all they did was spend a few weeks at the temple or in some cases not at all. The monks in Shaolin today are performing monks and not the same systems as used by the fighting monks of old.
So is any of this accurate? Is martial arts, weapons, and combat arts no longer out lawed in China? It's very, very hard to find facts. There are plenty of articles, books and documentaries, but how do you sort out the bull from the truth?
Just curious because you see practitioners in China and people making referencing to them as being the best.
thanks
now all this is based upon documentaries and internet research, so it's questionable. Thus I ask members of MT
I was under the impression that Chinese martial arts was outlawed in China. Thus the Boxer rebellion in 1902. I was under the impression that even today that "real" martial arts in China is still out lawed.
So other things I was under the impression of and was curious as to how accurate this is, have you heard the same, or can you confirm it as accurate or direct me to what the real truth is please.
1) Chinese martial arts was outlawed so the boxers (CMA practitioners) went into hiding and it's hard to find real deal in China. Or some fled the country so you might find real deal in other countries but not China.
2) Some of the CMA practitioners and masters formed the Triads, essentially what many call the Chinese mob
3) Wushu was invented which is more showy then martial and was allowed as an art and sport in place of the combat arts (this of course could be complete bull still something I had read)
4) The Shaolin monks started drinking, gambling and sleeping with whores in a type of rebellion. So the communist burned the temple and whipped the last of the monks through the streets. This lead to no more Shaolin fighting monks ect the ones that escaped and try to keep it alive under ground. Because of this like wise many now slap shaolin on there school to draw students even if all they did was spend a few weeks at the temple or in some cases not at all. The monks in Shaolin today are performing monks and not the same systems as used by the fighting monks of old.
So is any of this accurate? Is martial arts, weapons, and combat arts no longer out lawed in China? It's very, very hard to find facts. There are plenty of articles, books and documentaries, but how do you sort out the bull from the truth?
Just curious because you see practitioners in China and people making referencing to them as being the best.
thanks