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That's what I keep saying to myself.To lose your life over a beer bottle...
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That's what I keep saying to myself.To lose your life over a beer bottle...
But you know, honor and not being seen as a coward and all that...That's what I keep saying to myself.
I have lived in some gritty neighborhoods in my time. Overall, it seems avoiding fights is actually not all that difficult. Usually, it just takes a willingness to let the comments roll off your back, don’t let it get under your skin; and be willing to walk (or run) away. I’ve done both, it is in no way a threat to my masculinity, even when the other guy(s) was someone I believed I could probably take. Because it just isn’t worth it if I was wrong. Nor even if I was right. I actually abhor the thought of injuring someone almost as much as I hate the thought of being injured.But you know, honor and not being seen as a coward and all that...
I try to consider as many potentialities as possible in any conflict. Mine and theirs.Interesting.
Do you factor the potential of guns and knives being pulled when you meet bullies on the street - as a part of your MA mind set?
It brings to mind the remembrance that there are some societies and some situations where fighting may be required to actually have a modicum of safety. The military, prisons, other closed societies come to mind. However, I am no longer in the military and have not been put in prison yet. I am able to avoid fights, as you say. I don't go where trouble usually happens, I avoid alcohol, and I don't care what some random stranger thinks of my manliness. I am not this old by pure accident.I have lived in some gritty neighborhoods in my time. Overall, it seems avoiding fights is actually not all that difficult. Usually, it just takes a willingness to let the comments roll off your back, don’t let it get under your skin; and be willing to walk (or run) away. I’ve done both, it is in no way a threat to my masculinity, even when the other guy(s) was someone I believed I could probably take. Because it just isn’t worth it if I was wrong. Nor even if I was right. I actually abhor the thought of injuring someone almost as much as I hate the thought of being injured.
One’s mileage may vary.
Yes, there are societies where violence on some regular basis is simply part of life. I am glad I do not live in one of them. Others are not so fortunate.It brings to mind the remembrance that there are some societies and some situations where fighting may be required to actually have a modicum of safety. The military, prisons, other closed societies come to mind. However, I am no longer in the military and have not been put in prison yet. I am able to avoid fights, as you say. I don't go where trouble usually happens, I avoid alcohol, and I don't care what some random stranger thinks of my manliness. I am not this old by pure accident.
This is #1 for me.3) Avoid fighting over things that do not matter, like stolen bottles from a table.
life of the young and single. Marriage and kids puts alot of things into perspectiveBut you know, honor and not being seen as a coward and all that...
I don't think so. I think it would take more than a bottle to make many of us feel the need to actually fight.I think in the same circumstances, 100% of folks on this forum are also shot and probably also killed.
I disagree. Anybody who's worked as a cop would have automatically patted him down as part of the process. At least anyone I know.I think in the same circumstances, 100% of folks on this forum are also shot and probably also killed.
Sure. But we weren’t there. We are all filling in the blanks based on our presumptions.I don't think so. I think it would take more than a bottle to make many of us feel the need to actually fight.
I disagree. Anybody who's worked as a cop would have automatically patted him down as part of the process. At least anyone I know.
And when you discovered he was carrying? Ship would get real western real fast.
So could I, but that wasn't my point.Also I’m pretty confident I could find an example of a cop shot in a bar.
Same here. I'm sharing my opinion based on some of the stories that many have already told where they didn't act in that way. Some even had fights where they didn't stay on the scene. How a BJJ World Champion would react doesn't mean any of us would have reacted the same way and didn't act in the same way in the past, based on the life experiences that some people have already shared.Sure. But we weren’t there. We are all filling in the blanks based on our presumptions.
But it’s cool. I don’t expect to convince anyone. Just sharing my opinion.
Not sure if there was ever a "safe place" in the U.S. There are just places that were more likely and less likely to have violenceLately, there are a lot of attacks on older Asians, there is NO safe area, it can happen in nice neighborhood unprovoked. That's the only reason I am even on this forum, starting with stick fight at the beginning of last year. Before that, I really didn't think much about MA or self defense, I did practice punching and kicking every week as part of my exercise as aerobics, but that's the extend of it. Since the news about older Asians being attacked, I really up my training to like 7 hours a week half on weights and half on self defense which is half stick fight and half punching and kicking.
There is no safe places anymore in the bayarea unless you go into exclusive area.
I didn’t say you’d react the same. You’re misunderstanding me. That never even crossed my mind.Same here. I'm sharing my opinion based on some of the stories that many have already told where they didn't act in that way. Some even had fights where they didn't stay on the scene. How a BJJ World Champion would react doesn't mean any of us would have reacted the same way and didn't act in the same way in the past, based on the life experiences that some people have already shared.
Maybe if that cop also happened to be an x8 world champion in BJJ.
Also I’m pretty confident I could find an example of a cop shot in a bar.
Sure. But we weren’t there. We are all filling in the blanks based on our presumptions.
But it’s cool. I don’t expect to convince anyone. Just sharing my opinion.