My point exactly. The islands (by square miles) are relatively small. But again, I don't know a ton about the gun restraints there, just what the federal regs say.
You mean I could buy a gun from a private person wishing to sell one from her collection?
Yes.
Yes. That’s how it was in most of the USA when I was a kid. You could even mail order pistols from a catalogue. Lots of Raven brand semi auto pistols in .25apc were bought at 3 for $99.00 in those days. It was the most common way for people to get shot at the bus stop when I was in high school. Usually from inside a pocket on a crowded bus stop. Everyone would scatter, including the shooter, leaving the victim hopping away or laying on the ground screaming. I never saw anyone die from that but I’ve been witness to more than a dozen versions of that event. .25 APC has a fairly distinct sound when fired from a pants or jacket pocket.
Ah! That’s where the (good) system breaks down and the nutters get hold of guns! What a shame….
I used to sometimes get called racist names at the bus stop….but when I told them how much it upset me, my family stopped doing it…after a few months…😐
Well that’s not entirely true, you can get anything you want with enough cash if you aren’t interested in following the law. That part isn’t new. “Nutters” aren’t usually concerned with what is or isn’t legal.
Calling racist epithets would be a great introduction to being shot at in my high school.
Yes, but it’s just another and seemingly very easy avenue to obtain guns whilst having a criminal record or psychosis without attracting attention and then getting up to tomfoolery.
We(me) become inured to things we experience regularly. I just accepted that people shot each other in public over perceived slights, to prove themselves worthy of gang membership, for looking in the wrong direction, or pretty much nothing at all. I believe my experiences have jaded my beliefs and colored my responses with heavy biases.
I’m not surprised!
This isn't really true. There are absolutely states that do not explicitly require private sales to include an NICS check. However, 100% of those states DO have laws making it a crime for the private seller to transfer the firearm to anyone who is not allowed by law to possess a gun. And the only way they can do that is by going to their local gun shop for an NICS check.
Hmm. I'm not sure I can agree with that statement. The so-called 'gunshow loophole' that existed, and I believe still exists, was simply sellers at gun shows who did not define themselves as 'engaging in the business' and therefore who sold guns 'from their private collection' without a 4473, an FFL, or a background check. While sketchy, and I'm sure a lot of these 'collectors' were dealers based on a strict interpretation of the law, they certainly were permitted to operate.
Correct as I understand it. You could also inherit a firearm from someone. Private transfers do not require background checks or a filled out 4473 in many states. That is changing in Michigan due to changes in the law.
There is no such loophole, really. Every single state either explicitly requires a background check and/or makes it illegal to transfer a gun if the person you're transferring it to is not legally allowed to possess a gun. Implicitly requiring a background check. Anyone who transfers a gun in the way you describe is committing a crime if the person they sold the gun turns out to be a bad guy.
OK, I understand. *If* the person you're selling to is not legally permitted to own a firearm, you're breaking the law. Got it. I don't think that makes private sales illegal, but they *could* be illegal depending on the circumstances.
The USA is a different world….
That is very true. And it's evolving. The USA I grew up in is unrecognizable from the one that exists today. Both good and bad.
Where? I've never had a license to purchase any of my guns.
