What it's like to live in America where everybody can buy guns?

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America is a very large place with vary different geographic cultures. You can't really make a general statement about Americans as you are trying to in this thread.

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France has around 64 million people The U.S. has around 323 million people. In all honesty I think the U.S. does incredibly well with violence (we could always do better) considering that there are warring countries with far fewer people. I'm not sure how accurate this site is but if it is accurate than I would say that the U.S. does an incredible job
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well lets wait until america screws up its iq-test (aka next election) by voting for psychopath trump, to "make america big again"...

but in case of the terrorists, french and belgium authorities totally f***ed it up, thats true.
 
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well lets wait until america screws up its iq-test (aka next election) by voting for psychopath trump, to "make america big again"...

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winning the pre election is already a reason to worry. when there are many chauvinists who also don't want to hear about crazy ufo-case stuff of clinton, then it will be a dark period...
 

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Last time I went to Vancouver, I saw 3 fist fights in 1 day. I haven't seen fist fight in US for a long time because people all know that if you beat me with fist today, I'll shot you tomorrow. That's the beauty to live in a gun country. There will be less fist fight and everybody treat others nicely and live happy ever after.

This is my favor movie clip.

- You pull out your gun (you try to scare me).
- I pull out my gun (you are not going to scare me. I have gun too).
- You put back your gun (you think it's too risky to fight).
- I put back my gun (I didn't want to fight you to begin with).

We all just move on, mind our own business after that. It's such a nice friendly world to live in.

 
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well lets wait until america screws up its iq-test (aka next election) by voting for psychopath trump, to "make america big again"...
I am a libertarian, and very much not a Trump Supporter. I am, however, curious about what exactly you dislike. If it's his personality/racism/sexism, have you seen any examples of him acting in that way in the past, or is it primarily second-hand sources (media who does not provide the clip involved or only provides one sentence with their own interpretation, people posting on FB, etc.). If it's that you dislike his policies, which of his policies do you dislike and can you articulate why you would think Sanders or Clinton's policies are superior?

I don't actually expect you to answer this as you are from Germany, and I can't imagine you have a whole lot of reason to be invested in our presidential candidates. However, a lot of the people I know who support Trump ignore most of the people who complain about him because they can't answer the above questions, and instead just parrot "He wants to build a wall, kill muslims and is into incest." (The trump supporters words about the liberals words, not mine) While I don't like him, people making attacks or comments about him without providing any reasoning ends up supporting his case rather than hurting it.
 

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let me say, here it wouldn't be imaginable to let a ridiculous and exaggerated actor like him get power (not since the 1930's). but here it wouldn't also be imaginable to let laypeople in a jury decide, when participants act crying in court, someone is guilty or not. land of endless opportunities? or just thinking the world is a hollywood movie or a talkshow?
but yes i have no deeper knowledge of what else the candidates promise in their programs.
 
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i think clinton is also really scary. i heard many times that she should actually be in prison for lying.
to me she doesn't look like she's right in her mind. i watched a video on youtube which only consisted
of scenes where she laughed and this laughter already sounded disturbing. i think that by the way a person
laughs you can already draw conclusions. for example if somebody always laughs really loud so that everybody can
hear him it's a red flag to me.

anyway, i think even if somebody is against carrying guns in public then having guns at home for self-defense is a good thing imo.
if a creep breaks into your house you should be allowed to defend it and not just call the police and hide in a closet. somebody who
breaks into a house shouldn't complain afterwards if he gets shot in the head.
 

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winning the pre election is already a reason to worry. when there are many chauvinists who also don't want to hear about crazy ufo-case stuff of clinton, then it will be a dark period...
They must have suppressed the Clinton UFO connection, here; so, do tell. :)
 

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Couple of things. First, politics are not okay around here.

Second, regarding guns, I am glad tgace posted some common sense. Statistically, a lot of risk is self inflicted by choosing to engage in high risk behaviors. Not all, certainly, but most.
 

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Couple of things. First, politics are not okay around here.

Second, regarding guns, I am glad tgace posted some common sense. Statistically, a lot of risk is self inflicted by choosing to engage in high risk behaviors. Not all, certainly, but most.

I so like what Steve said.
 

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Couple of things. First, politics are not okay around here.

Second, regarding guns, I am glad tgace posted some common sense. Statistically, a lot of risk is self inflicted by choosing to engage in high risk behaviors. Not all, certainly, but most.
This reminds me..around 4 years or so ago, when I started, there was a politics section in the bar and grill. What happened to that/why are politics not allowed anymore?
 

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I didn't think talking politics was allowed either. And it sounds even stupider when our politics are discussed by people half way around the world who think every American has to carry a gun at all times because it's so dangerous and every other American is.

If I started arguing German or British politics (especially if all my knowledge came from YouTube/Facebook and the like stuff), you'd call me one of those "stupid Americans." I wonder what the term is when it's the other way around?

Then again, most of what people know about politics around here (in my neck of the woods) can and usually do fit on a bumper sticker. Most just repeat what the internet just told them, practically verbatim. Talk about master debaters.
 

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"This is the internet and we're all friends. It's okay to talk about race, religion and politics." Said nobody, ever.
 

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Nonsense. Children cannot legally carry guns, so this is pretty much a straw man.

If, on the other hand, responsible, trained adults at that school/mall/theater/whatever are armed, it is possible that they could protect themselves and others.

Consider this. Paris is a gun free zone. Didn't stop bad guys from shooting a bunch of people.

Paris isn't a gun free zone no more than France is, you can buy guns of all types you just need permits. There's a heck of a lot of legal weapons of all sorts. The French Police and the Gendarmerie are also armed to the teeth. The recent attacks there would not have been stopped by armed civilians, it was a planned attack by trained military personnel which really only a another military force would have been able to counteract.
 

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Paris isn't a gun free zone no more than France is, you can buy guns of all types you just need permits. There's a heck of a lot of legal weapons of all sorts. The French Police and the Gendarmerie are also armed to the teeth. The recent attacks there would not have been stopped by armed civilians, it was a planned attack by trained military personnel which really only a another military force would have been able to counteract.

That's pure opinion and conjecture right there......
 

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That's pure opinion and conjecture right there......

Actually neither is conjecture.
My reasoning is based on over 40 years experience in anti terrorism, it's my specialised subject if you like, it's the opinion, I know as well, of the security forces here of which I was a member until very recently.
 

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This reminds me..around 4 years or so ago, when I started, there was a politics section in the bar and grill. What happened to that/why are politics not allowed anymore?
After political discussions became exceedingly disruptive, we (the Staff) initially tried quarantining them to a particular, paid subforum. That didn't work as well as we'd like, for lots of reasons, and when we joined the Forum Foundry family, they had dedicated political discussion forums, here at US Message Board. Sending all political discussions there allowed us to keep MartialTalk focused on the martial arts. Of course, there's the occasional overlap that pops up. If a topic, like gun control, starts to shift too far into the politics, we issue reminders and encourage folks to go there for the political chat. The lines can be somewhat fuzzy, of course, such as causes of crime, and legality of actions -- but, generally, when there's too much of a political trend -- we try to steer out of it.
 
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