What is NOT being talked about in regards to the Duck Dynasty controversy

[ballen0351]

Actually, I think it is listed that way. Hey, I have the choice of wading through each case and looking for the religion tie ins, OR editing photos from the bodypaint shoot I did on Sunday. I'm choosing #2 here.

Ill have to double check but Im almost positive we didn't list it that was

 

[crushing]

http://www.crisismagazine.com/2011/the-truth-about-the-spanish-inquisition

I can certainly understand why "A Voice for the Faithful Catholic Laity" would want to cleanse and rewrite the history of the Tribunal of the Holy Office of the Inquisition.

 

[Tgace]

I can certainly understand why "A Voice for the Faithful Catholic Laity" would want to cleanse and rewrite the history of the Tribunal of the Holy Office of the Inquisition.

Yawn.

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[Tgace]

http://www.gopusa.com/freshink/2013...-remembered-what-pays-the-bills/?subscriber=1

Hmmmmm......

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[granfire]

http://www.gopusa.com/freshink/2013...-remembered-what-pays-the-bills/?subscriber=1

Hmmmmm......

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did you ever expect anything else?! Ratings and $$$$$$$$$

eff the rest.

 

[Tames D]

BAN HAMMER NOW:feedtroll:redeme::moon:

 

[Rumy73]

Except this is a country founded on Christian Principals no matter how much people try to pretend its not.

Yeah, like having slaves and stealing Indian land. Amen, Jesus.

 

[Dirty Dog]

Yeah, like having slaves and stealing Indian land. Amen, Jesus.

Actually, those are Christian values...

From facebook:

Dear Phil (duck dynasty) Robertson, Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.
a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?
g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?
i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging. Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.

 

[ballen0351]

Yeah, like having slaves and stealing Indian land. Amen, Jesus.

No that's more sign of the times then religion. That's just how things were done. Only so muchnkand on this little rock no matter where you go someone was there first.
And plenty of Jesus followers fought to end slavery but hey don't let real history get in the way of a good bash the Christian story lol. Merry Christmas

 

[Rumy73]

No that's more sign of the times then religion. That's just how things were done. Only so muchnkand on this little rock no matter where you go someone was there first.
And plenty of Jesus followers fought to end slavery but hey don't let real history get in the way of a good bash the Christian story lol. Merry Christmas

Yes, history wizard, abolitionists were a small minority. And when the Civil War ended, the south went largely unpunished and blacks were terrorized under Jim Crow. Amen.

 

[ballen0351]

Yes, history wizard, abolitionists were a small minority. And when the Civil War ended, the south went largely unpunished and blacks were terrorized under Jim Crow. Amen.

And? What part of my statement was false?

 

[Rumy73]

And? What part of my statement was false?

Since you want to play dumb, shall I treat you as such?

 

[ballen0351]

Since you want to play dumb, shall I treat you as such?

So Christians didn't fight to end slavery? I'm a Methodist and John Welsly was trying to end slavery back in the mid 1700s other religious leaders were trying before and long after that. But again don't let the truth get in your way.

 

[Dirty Dog]

So Christians didn't fight to end slavery? I'm a Methodist and John Welsly was trying to end slavery back in the mid 1700s other religious leaders were trying before and long after that. But again don't let the truth get in your way.

I think the point is that SOME Christians use parts of the bible to support their prejudices while ignoring parts they don't like. Such as the sections endorsing slavery. If you endorse the Old Testament injunction against homosexuality, then you must also, logically, endorse the Old Testament passages I quoted above.
Since you obviously have not killed yourself for working on Sunday (as is required by the Old Testament) then you're practicing cafeteria religion. Picking and choosing which parts are "right" based in your own preconceived notions of right and wrong, instead of following the Word of God as you are required to do.

Some Christians did help abolish the atrocity of slavery. Similarly, today, many Christians are helping to abolish the atrocity of bigotry towards homosexuals.


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[seasoned]

Yeah, like having slaves and stealing Indian land. Amen, Jesus.

Human element will get you every time................... Along with the freedom of choice thing.

 

[ballen0351]

I think the point is that SOME Christians use parts of the bible to support their prejudiOignoring parts they don't like. Such as the sections endorsing slavery. If you endorse the Old Testament injunction against homosexuality, then you must also, logically, endorse the Old Testament passages I quoted above.
Since you obviously have not killed yourself for working on Sunday (as is required by the Old Testament) then you're practicing cafeteria religion. Picking and choosing which parts are "right" based in your own preconceived notions of right and wrong, instead of following the Word of God as you are required to do.

Some Christians did help abolish the atrocity of slavery. Similarly, today, many Christians are helping to abolish the atrocity of bigotry towards homosexuals.


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I'm not practicing cafeteria anything. All of your questions are answered in other parts of the bible reading one line and saying "ah ha got you" is just silly.
It still goes back to a question nobody will answer. Why do you as a non believer care what I think or believe. Or in this case why do you care what Phil thinks? He did call for beating or not hiring gays he said they won't be in heaven. Well if you don't believe in heaven why do you care if Phil says your not going.

 

[Dirty Dog]

I'm not practicing cafeteria anything. All of your questions are answered in other parts of the bible reading one line and saying "ah ha got you" is just silly.
It still goes back to a question nobody will answer. Why do you as a non believer care what I think or believe. Or in this case why do you care what Phil thinks? He did call for beating or not hiring gays he said they won't be in heaven. Well if you don't believe in heaven why do you care if Phil says your not going.

For the same reasons I'd care if he made the exact same statement, but replaced "gay" with "black". Some things are just wrong.

 

[Big Don]

Actually, those are Christian values...

From facebook:

Isn't that cute, someone stole from the West Wing

 

[Dirty Dog]

Isn't that cute, someone stole from the West Wing

Isn't that cute. Someone didn't actually address the issue.

 

[ballen0351]

For the same reasons I'd care if he made the exact same statement, but replaced "gay" with "black". Some things are just wrong.

But he didnt . he said is my belief and this is why. Well if you don't believe in heaven anyway whats it matter if he says your not going?