reinhart_menken
White Belt
Hiya,
New to this forum. Another style-choosing thread, I know. Bear with me, and please read the whole thing if you will. I have a lot of questions. I thank you in advance.
I'm mostly trying to decide between Muay Thai and Inosanto Kali. I've always wanted to learn martial arts since I was a kid, but never did (so it's not about because I saw this or that in a movie or something). I like the aspect in Muay Thai where it utilizes more then just your fists and feet, so it feels like you have more tools and are less limited (I mean, when you can't use your first, you've got your elbow, you can kick then you can use your knee); and it just feels like it delivers more powerful blows (from vids I've seen). As for Inosanto Kali, I like that the whole form/style encompasses sticks (so IRL - batons), knives, as well as empty hands, so that it's more versatile and you wouldn't need to learn from a separate form just to get hand-to-hand techniques. Plus it seems to be....just somewhat more applicable because in fights your opponents wouldn't just be unarmed. The impression I got from Kali was that it deals not only with how to attack with weapons but also how to block (like knives).
My concern is if Inosanto Kali would be....- I'm not sure of the right description at the moment, but you know how the common perception is that - if you're jack-of-all-trades, then you can't excel at all of them. Would Muay Thai, being that it focuses on empty hand only, have more to teach than Kali in the hand-to-hand area? (I personally view that if there's more technique, than it's better, so I guess my concern is if Kali would have significantly less techniques)
The reason I want to learn is because I feel that it's about time I go do something with my time, and it should be learning martial art. I've spent my previous college years (still in) just wasting away my time during classes and vacations. I've seen a lot of posts everywhere where when people are answering this question, they want to know the goal of an individual. I guess my goal is to be able to actually use it (not to go out and look for trouble), instead of going for 20 years and be a master. I mean, that's the reason why we want to learn things right, so we can actually do it? Plus, it's related to my future occupation (very much so), so there's an added incentive for me to learn it now than to wait for cross-agency/nation training or whatnot (however that works).
I hope I haven't left anything out.
Anyways, my main concern is that Kali seems more versatle, but I'm worried that if it has significantly less to teach in the empty hand area than compared to Muay Thai (just a little bit less, that's okay). Oh, and I know there are various forms of filipine martial arts (I mainly wanted to learn Eskrima at first, and then when I looked it up I found Inosanto Kali), but it seems that Inosanto Kali is more fitting for what I want - batons, knife techniques, hand-to-hand combat; but I don't know anything about other types of filipine martial art or if there's something better suited for what I want. So, if you have any suggestions as to forms, please do suggest.
Oh, and I found these two gyms:
http://www.pmajkd.com/html_muaythai_kickboxing.html
http://www.ultimategymny.com
It seems that the first one offers both styles. I'm a person who like to save time (life is short). I don't know if I can, realistically, with martial arts (pardon me if this just sounds really stupid); but should I even think about taking both at the first gym, since they're one-hour classes? (so I don't need to spend years on one, and then years on another, so I can just spend years on both, together) Or should I at least do one for a certain peroid of time? (if so, how long?)
Thanks for taking the time to read such a long post!
ps. I'm a college student who's very thin, 120 lbs (seems to be within the range of ideal body weight for my height though, so I'm not too underweight). But I do workout from time to time, and I've done jobs that require some lifting. So...- well I don't know if it matters.
ps2. I'm also concerned about half-**** hackjob instructors, as I know there are a lot of wannebes, and some even claim themselves as masters (I don't know if they actually teach). Some of those "instructors/masters" on TV which I've seen perform various "amazing/legendary feats/moves" just seem laughably fake to me (hopefully you know what I'm talking about). So, if anyone have any experience or heard good things about those two gyms...
New to this forum. Another style-choosing thread, I know. Bear with me, and please read the whole thing if you will. I have a lot of questions. I thank you in advance.
I'm mostly trying to decide between Muay Thai and Inosanto Kali. I've always wanted to learn martial arts since I was a kid, but never did (so it's not about because I saw this or that in a movie or something). I like the aspect in Muay Thai where it utilizes more then just your fists and feet, so it feels like you have more tools and are less limited (I mean, when you can't use your first, you've got your elbow, you can kick then you can use your knee); and it just feels like it delivers more powerful blows (from vids I've seen). As for Inosanto Kali, I like that the whole form/style encompasses sticks (so IRL - batons), knives, as well as empty hands, so that it's more versatile and you wouldn't need to learn from a separate form just to get hand-to-hand techniques. Plus it seems to be....just somewhat more applicable because in fights your opponents wouldn't just be unarmed. The impression I got from Kali was that it deals not only with how to attack with weapons but also how to block (like knives).
My concern is if Inosanto Kali would be....- I'm not sure of the right description at the moment, but you know how the common perception is that - if you're jack-of-all-trades, then you can't excel at all of them. Would Muay Thai, being that it focuses on empty hand only, have more to teach than Kali in the hand-to-hand area? (I personally view that if there's more technique, than it's better, so I guess my concern is if Kali would have significantly less techniques)
The reason I want to learn is because I feel that it's about time I go do something with my time, and it should be learning martial art. I've spent my previous college years (still in) just wasting away my time during classes and vacations. I've seen a lot of posts everywhere where when people are answering this question, they want to know the goal of an individual. I guess my goal is to be able to actually use it (not to go out and look for trouble), instead of going for 20 years and be a master. I mean, that's the reason why we want to learn things right, so we can actually do it? Plus, it's related to my future occupation (very much so), so there's an added incentive for me to learn it now than to wait for cross-agency/nation training or whatnot (however that works).
I hope I haven't left anything out.
Anyways, my main concern is that Kali seems more versatle, but I'm worried that if it has significantly less to teach in the empty hand area than compared to Muay Thai (just a little bit less, that's okay). Oh, and I know there are various forms of filipine martial arts (I mainly wanted to learn Eskrima at first, and then when I looked it up I found Inosanto Kali), but it seems that Inosanto Kali is more fitting for what I want - batons, knife techniques, hand-to-hand combat; but I don't know anything about other types of filipine martial art or if there's something better suited for what I want. So, if you have any suggestions as to forms, please do suggest.
Oh, and I found these two gyms:
http://www.pmajkd.com/html_muaythai_kickboxing.html
http://www.ultimategymny.com
It seems that the first one offers both styles. I'm a person who like to save time (life is short). I don't know if I can, realistically, with martial arts (pardon me if this just sounds really stupid); but should I even think about taking both at the first gym, since they're one-hour classes? (so I don't need to spend years on one, and then years on another, so I can just spend years on both, together) Or should I at least do one for a certain peroid of time? (if so, how long?)
Thanks for taking the time to read such a long post!
ps. I'm a college student who's very thin, 120 lbs (seems to be within the range of ideal body weight for my height though, so I'm not too underweight). But I do workout from time to time, and I've done jobs that require some lifting. So...- well I don't know if it matters.
ps2. I'm also concerned about half-**** hackjob instructors, as I know there are a lot of wannebes, and some even claim themselves as masters (I don't know if they actually teach). Some of those "instructors/masters" on TV which I've seen perform various "amazing/legendary feats/moves" just seem laughably fake to me (hopefully you know what I'm talking about). So, if anyone have any experience or heard good things about those two gyms...
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