There are some on line sources for the 15 Volume encyclopedia. You could have downloaded it much quicker. I downloaded it to my phone so I could reference it in class. I think one site even has it in a "Searchable" format.
Some fundamental terminology is in order. (Note: how General Choi defines certain terms in the text i not always the most common every day usage) If a technique is "Side" that specifies the stance is either Half or Side Facing (Vol III P 220), if it is Front it is full facing and tool is at the Center Line (Vol III P 214 -later editions use the term Solar Plexus line and Not Center Line)
I looked at both (how Chung Oh was doing it and what the book was calling for) and decided to do it the book way in this instance, because there is no reason to do a knife-hand high block with the other hand supporting underneath it when the student can just do an X-knife-hand rising block. There is however a good reason to do a high knife-hand side block with the other hand helping to reinforce it.
Do you have PDFs of the 1965 book? I would love to go back in time as far as I can to see how that looked as well.
I'd love to see that version!
At Chung Oh's, mountain block is when you move both arms up at the same time. It's a different block, but the finish looks the same as W-shaped block. We also do it without a stamping motion. It's a regular step or step + slide step.
They do a punch in L-stance with the other hand positioned at the shoulder. We do something called a 9-shaped punch. I have yet to see any Legacy guide that mentions 9-shaped punch, but it must exist somewhere.
I do it the book way, doing the forearm inward block. It's such a rarely used block in patterns that I didn't want to omit it.
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Sir, not sure what you refer to = the crescent Kick, Ju Che Kicks, 9 shape block, of the several things mentioned above this comment.
Sir, to my knowledge there is no technique called a 9 shape Punch in General Choi's system. There is a Nine Shape Block.
Therein you have the concept alluded to in the article attached above. While pattern moves have specific Technical parameters, they provide a "Starting Point" from which to morph movement as needed (Crescent Punch with twin fist - Alter level of one hand and it becomes what you call the 9 Shape punch) limited only by practical considerations.
Exactly my motivation. In the early 1970's we did not know the 1965 Book Existed and different Seniors made us nuts telling us to do things differently. Also there was an Aura around the Senior Koreans to not ask questions. I have doubts whether their language skill allowed them to always comprehend the question, or express an answer properly, or if they even knew many of the answers.
Sir, I don't grasp the point here. Can you elaborate and / or provide an example?
I don't think this is a matter of one or the other. Whether the finger thrust strike is done with the other hand coming to the hip, or placed under the thrusting arm's elbow is a matter of what that non-thrusting hand is doing. These are just not poses but have two different combat functions.
Well, FWIW Vol III (Hand Techniques Volume) Straight Fingertip thrust states in part "..... be sure to block the opponent's attacking tool with the palm while executing the thrust and shows non striking hand under the elbow. "
While I think the text is consistent with how it shows / explains this movement, there are most definitely more ways to execute fundamental motions than those used in the patterns. We would need probably 10times the number of pattern moves if they covered all the variations set forth in the texts.
