I was just interested to see how far down the branches of the Moo Duk Kwan family tree everyone is at. I will start with myself: My teacher trained at the Moo Duk Kwan central gym starting in 1960, and learned from GM Hwang Kee. GM Hwang Kee>>>>>>James Lee>>>>>>Michael Sabia Jr. I am second generation Moo Duk Kwan. My teacher is also a student of, and the successor to Tang Soo Do Y.M.C.A. style, under GM Oh Sae Joon, who was a student of Hwang Kee from the founding in 1945. Hwang Kee || \/ Oh Sae Joon>>>>James Lee>>>>Michael Sabia Jr. I am also second generation TSD Y.M.C.A.