SKK Problem Techniques
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marlon
Master Black Belt
could you explain this more, please? I have seen this problem with students who do not touch thier partner, but if you do and step accordingly everything should match up. Combo #39 is a great example of this.
respectfully,
Marlon
LawDog
Master Black Belt
Marlon,
Most of the early impacting presets were done in a way that put you outside the power curve of a strike or kick. This did cause some of the problem for proper follow up moves.
The real problem was the footwork that was being used was not properly combined with the proper width SKK stance. The footwork used did not match the zones that are required for all strikes, kicks, jujitsu and judo moves. These zones, when properly applied, will keep you in the power curves for all types of impacting. They will also keep you within the "throwing boxes" for your Judo. They will also keep you within the proper range so that your motion will match your opponents motion, this is a must when a jujitsu move is applied.
When footwork is used if the width of the stance is changed it will change the distance that you travel.
Ex. When appling a shuffle, if you use a standard neutral stance then use the really wide "Kung Fu" stance the distance that you travel will be different.
When many presets were being developed the footwork and stance width were not properly matched.
:ultracool
Most of the early impacting presets were done in a way that put you outside the power curve of a strike or kick. This did cause some of the problem for proper follow up moves.
The real problem was the footwork that was being used was not properly combined with the proper width SKK stance. The footwork used did not match the zones that are required for all strikes, kicks, jujitsu and judo moves. These zones, when properly applied, will keep you in the power curves for all types of impacting. They will also keep you within the "throwing boxes" for your Judo. They will also keep you within the proper range so that your motion will match your opponents motion, this is a must when a jujitsu move is applied.
When footwork is used if the width of the stance is changed it will change the distance that you travel.
Ex. When appling a shuffle, if you use a standard neutral stance then use the really wide "Kung Fu" stance the distance that you travel will be different.
When many presets were being developed the footwork and stance width were not properly matched.
:ultracool
JTKenpo
Purple Belt
Jdokan
Black Belt
Another triangle we use is shoulder/shoulder/navel...
We have a technique we know as "Knife #9". Atack is a slashing attack to the leg or lower body.
step fwd with right foot, using a scissor block to trap the attacking right arm (right arm low, left high). Guide their arm upwards ccw, as their arm passes their neck, strike down on the back of the neck with knife hand as you kick their right leg up and out, the combined motion sweeping them to the ground on your right side. Continue the leg motion into an axe kick to the left ribs.
that kick is a nightmare
step fwd with right foot, using a scissor block to trap the attacking right arm (right arm low, left high). Guide their arm upwards ccw, as their arm passes their neck, strike down on the back of the neck with knife hand as you kick their right leg up and out, the combined motion sweeping them to the ground on your right side. Continue the leg motion into an axe kick to the left ribs.
that kick is a nightmare
JTKenpo
Purple Belt
I like the base of the tech but I have two questions. 1st I'm not seeing the scissor block stopping a slash, could you expound on that (could just be having a bad day)? 2nd how do you control the knife and where is the disarm (wrist flex with the right hand?)?
Ok I lied, three questions, when I follow the technique they land on my left side?
The block is like a "V", right arm low, straight, left arm bent and intersecting, so the slashing arm is caught mid-forearm ideally. Then controlling their arm circling it clockwise (I mis-typed that in my orig post) to your right side. No disarm just control of the weapon arm.
I think the CW/CCW disrepancy might answer question 3
JTKenpo
Purple Belt
The block is like a "V", right arm low, straight, left arm bent and intersecting, so the slashing arm is caught mid-forearm ideally. Then controlling their arm circling it clockwise (I mis-typed that in my orig post) to your right side. No disarm just control of the weapon arm.
I think the CW/CCW disrepancy might answer question 3
Yup CW puts him on my right. Good tech, I would personally use the block against a thrusting knife (straight in attack) but would then have to change the footwork too.
RevIV
Black Belt
This is a great thread and its killing me that i do not have the time to respond to anything yet but the 12 hour karate days are killing me this week. so keep this one going and then i will be the johnny come lately and respond to the first post -- as long as it is not about combo #6
JTKenpo
Purple Belt
RevIV
Black Belt
oh yes, and my favorite day is still 3 away... Friday we head to Water Country. def. not as many people doing the camp this year. in the past we have had 50 kids, this year only 10.
I do like the arm work in this tech but that leg-hock-to-axe-kick is no friend of my 42 year old hip joints :/
JTKenpo
Purple Belt
Yeah, I decided to take this summer off from camp. I'm sure I will do it back up next year.
marlon
Master Black Belt
thanks. i found that footwork was left out of my early kempo training and i really developed it when i started teaching and had to answer questions that i guess i was too slow to ask for myself when i started. Shihan I is very good with footwork so along with drawing from my other martial arts background i have his knowledge as well. How did you develpo your footwork. I think it is an essential part of kempo training and i thank you for pointing it out
Respectfully,
Marlon
RevIV
Black Belt
For me, I'd have to say that one of them was #19. Everything, IMHO, was fine right up until the part where you flip them over. On a smaller person, sure, I could see this working, but on a large person...I'm just not seeing it. Personally, after the elbow to the back, I'd rather drop a few more elbows or perhaps some knees to the head.
Well, thats a start! Anyone have any that drove them crazy?
So like I said, i will start from here. after the elbow down we just grab onto the guy and throw them backwards,.. get the idea of the old west and someone getting thrown out of a salloon. We work this tech. off of being backed into a wall and when we bend them over from the bladder kick we grab on and put their head through the wall.
RevIV
Black Belt
so we have, 12, and then 38, are you refering to 21 and 26 where you go to the side, kindof in front?
RevIV
Black Belt
I agree with your instructor, its a timing issue on when you are going to scoop out the leg and with how much momentum of the left arm scooping that ankle.
RevIV
Black Belt
Marlon, does your #39 have a kick in it? mine does not? your qoute was in question of Lawdogs kicking distance.
RevIV
Black Belt
My 6 week old baby told me she wanted a car so i had to run the camp to start putting money away..hahah
