Over 50's clubs reopen after CV 19

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  1. Buka

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    I'm reading this thread for the second time, haven't been back to it in a while. [​IMG]

    It was a good day, but walking up the mountain with my wife seriously kicked my ash today, where we went was just too steep. She does it five times a week, I usually do it twice, sometimes once. I don't know why today was so hard, it just was. I had worked out a little before we went, but it was just a little. I had planned a bodyweight workout tonight with a little extra seasoning, but I pussed out big time, like the little beach I am, I was, and am, toast.

    So I consumed a lot of good food, rehydrated, had some home made Chocolate Macadamia nut ice cream, and a strong cup of Kona Coffee spiced with a shot of Black Sambuca, then went online, answered a few e-mails, hit the Forum, and read this thread again.

    Oh, God, I f'n love you guys, you always make me smile so wide. Seriously. A baby seal walks into a club....

    Sometimes it's nice when you realize you're not the only one.
     
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    I think Brits have a sense of humor about everything but their senses of humor.
     
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    He he, I cant believe an American just said that, funniest gag of them all.
     
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    We are funnier than we look.
     
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    On a serious note, the British sense of humour is regional, but interwoven in the fabric of our lives, there are some things us Brits all find funny, and some things that are personally funny, usually it is to do with the class system, a person from a working class background, will not laugh at most of the jokes, an upperclass individual will tell, usually because its about working class people, and visa versa, humour is unique to our background, me I am a mix, formerley CHAV ( Council Housed And Violent), now working class who runs their own business, who occassionaly mistakes themself as middle class, probably because of my clientel are middle class, from an alcoholic father who used to come home and beat my mum, and me at 6 jumping on his back, and sinking my teeth into his head, humour is the thing that sort of makes things ok, when we do not understand we make light of things, when we are troubled, we make jokes about it, a humerous approach gives a situation a grounding point, it brings things to our level of understanding, unique to us, but guided by our experiences, some can relate, others think we are lunatics.
     
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    For what it's worth, I think Americans appreciate sarcasm and irony more than you might think. The USA is a big place, but we actually export some pretty good comedy.

    Except for Ricky Gervais. You can keep him. He's not half as clever as he thinks, his jokes trend more mean than funny to me, and one of my pet peeves is when someone laughs at their own jokes. It's like they are so not funny that they have to coach the audience about when they should be laughing.
     
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    There's a place just down the road in Tacoma, WA. Great vietnamese food:

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    Ok, but I understand Mr Gervais comedy, his speech at the recent movie awards was superb, you only had to look at Tom Hanks face, to see the Americans didnt get it, apart from Leonardo de Caprio, who laughed about the girlfriend joke.
    Humour is like art, not everyone gets it.
     
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    Reminds me of a chap I went to school with, his surname was King, his first name was wayne, true.
    We also had a chap with the surname Crow, first name Ivor, why would you do that, if you never had a sense of humour, by the way, these 2 kids where ridiculed at school, but gods honest, I went to school with wayne king and Ivor Crow.
     
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    Just to add, a few years later working for Hornby Scaletrix, my supervisor was called wayne Card.
     
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    Okay. Hold on. Understanding a joke and thinking it's funny are not intrinsically linked. Gervais isn't subtle. Humor is definitely cultural, though.

    I listen to a podcast I enjoy called Good One, hosted by a guy named Jesse David Fox, that you might like, if you're actually interested in the art of humor. He has a guest on each show who is a working stand up comedian. You listen to one of that comedian's bits and then they spend about an hour breaking down where the material came from and how it evolved into a finished piece.
     
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    I will listen to that podcast, but IMO, humour can be structuered or multi layered, a stand up comic for example may write a script for a show but will have an escape route to alter the script if things are not going well, or whitty, improvised quick draw, being able to respond with a very quick remark, Im not sure about breaking it down, analysing humour, but I will give it ago.
    My personal opinion there is a difference in what is funny between the USA and the UK, we for example can trip over hurt ourselves get up and laugh about it, as a way to deal with the embaressment, Americans first response to a trip, is probably to find out if they can sue someone, we also use humour to break the ice, an example, your at the bar and you see someone from your school days, an American would go up to this person and say Hi, didnt you used to go to saint Bernandino High, Dave isnt it, but the British person would walk up and say hello Dave who the FF cut your hair, the council, Dave would laugh and say, remember when you shat yourself on the coach coming home from alton towers, there would be some laughing, they would have a beer, ice broken, if an American said those things, to another American, someone is getting shot. Us British, mainly the English, we can laugh with you, at you, and ourself, we also use humour to normalise things we dont understand, which is why there was so many strains of offensive comedy in the 70's and 80's, and no group of people where exempt, as well as racist jokes towards blacks, Packistani, chinese, there were comedians who specialised in Irish jokes, mother in law jokes, blonde women, fat people, upper class people, politians, people from the south made jokes about people from the north and vise a versa, and your sense of humour was moulded by where you lived, what you experienced, and what you didnt fully understand. So whilst we can all laugh at somethings, other things of humour are unique to us, and unless you fully understand someone, not sure you can fully disect why its funny or not.
     
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    You’re really stereotyping Americans here, and doing a horrible job of it. Do you honestly think none of us laugh at that stuff and have never laughed at it before? The current state of affairs has really put a damper on what comedians and everyone else can get away with; I’ll grant you that. BLM, Me Too, etc. have really made it tough for comedy nowadays, but that’s quite recent, relatively speaking.

    Honestly, your post couldn’t be further from the truth. Especially when you reference the 70s and 80s. One only needs to look at our TV shows, movies, and stand up comedians from back then to see my point.
     
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    @JR 137 , put your glasses on, I was talkiing about the UK in the 70's and 80's, and what part was sterotyping? The shooting bit?
    If I was going to sterotype, there would have been more yippe ki ay or buddy in there, or burn outs in a truck, or muscle car with flames on the side, or some burger eating bird called Charlene who's squeezed herself into a size 24 dress, you know the type, they would make great cat burglars because her booty is so big it rubs her foot prints out, who has 3 sisters darlene, marlene and arlene. You probably find that offensive, but you did put me in credit.
     
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    I don’t need glasses. Perhaps your memory needs jogging...
    “My personal opinion there is a difference in what is funny between the USA and the UK, we for example can trip over hurt ourselves get up and laugh about it, as a way to deal with the embaressment, Americans first response to a trip, is probably to find out if they can sue someone...”

    Not stereotyping?

    “...your at the bar and you see someone from your school days, an American would go up to this person and say Hi, didnt you used to go to saint Bernandino High, Dave isnt it, but the British person would walk up and say hello Dave who the FF cut your hair...”
    Not stereotyping?

    I find humor in the things in your previous post. I find white trash hillbillies endlessly entertaining. Along with every other group of everyone. Absurdity has no racial, gender, cultural, religious, et al boundaries. Everyone and everything is fair game, first and foremost I am fair game. Anyone who’s ever met me gets that vibe very quickly.

    I have plenty of friends and acquaintances from the UK and far more places. Trust me, the humor isn’t much different. Some things are more sacred to others, but those aren’t too many. Funny is funny. Someone getting hit in the nuts is practically always funny, regardless of where they’re from and what language or dialect they speak.
     
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    You name me, 1 of the things that you quoted me on, that does not happen in the US.
     
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    Honestly, I’m more interested in why you guys are sh****ing on yourselves on a coach. I think that’s very eccentric behavior.
     
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    Yeah he isn't exactly John cleese who flagshiped the idea you don't have to be liked to be funny.
     
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    Weak argument.

    Of course it happens. Do you really think that’s the first place every or even most Americans’ minds go under those circumstances? Do you honestly think people don’t think like that in the UK?

    Very weak argument.
     
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    Ah, the ethics of gallows humor....

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