Niuwei Dao vs Liuye Dao

[Blaze Dragon]

Why do you think the Niuwei Dao is more popular then the Liuye Dao? I mean you see Niuwei Dao EVERYWHERE, it's commonly associated with "Kung-fu", but you almost never see Liuye Dao and it's even more rare to see combat ready blades. Same goes for others like the Miao Dao/Changdao. However I was curious why you think the niuwei dao is so well known.

Also while we are at it, which of the two dao do you prefer? Do you feel one is better then the other? Do you own one? both?

and why

 

[Ynze]

Well I can only guess. So for what it's worth:

The Liuye Dao was a Quing military saber while the Niuwei Dao was popular with militia and individual fighters. Therefor it might have been more popular under those that created the weapons forms.

I prefer and own a Liuye Dao : http://sevenstarstrading.com/site/huanuo/rndbattle/

The Niuwei is more tip heavy by it's design. (if you have a real weighted dao, not a flimsy show-weapon). I find that therefor the Liuye dao flows more easily within the form. Although I think that's just a matter of taste.

 

[Xue Sheng]

Oxtail Saber (Niu Wei Dao)

The Oxtail Saber was used predominantly by martial artists rather than the military, making the design difficult to attribute to a specific time period. Nevertheless, the Oxtail Saber is the most popular and recognizable of the Chinese broadswords.

Liu Ye Dao (Willow leaf saber)

During the Ming and Qing dynasties of China, the willow leaf sabre was used for the cavalry, and then also for the infantry. They became the martial arts sabre of choice in the Qing, as well. This has changed, although I don't know why. They are easier to handle than the oxtail sabres now used in many Chinese broadsword forms.

Niuwei Dao is more recent and there are more of them


Some sites you may like

http://www.chinese-swords-guide.com/ancient-chinese-military.html

http://www.chineselongsword.com/

 

[Blaze Dragon]

Well I can only guess. So for what it's worth:

The Liuye Dao was a Quing military saber while the Niuwei Dao was popular with militia and individual fighters. Therefor it might have been more popular under those that created the weapons forms.

I prefer and own a Liuye Dao : http://sevenstarstrading.com/site/huanuo/rndbattle/

The Niuwei is more tip heavy by it's design. (if you have a real weighted dao, not a flimsy show-weapon). I find that therefor the Liuye dao flows more easily within the form. Although I think that's just a matter of taste.

Appreciate the input thank you I've been having my eye on that sword, I've talked to Scott M. Rodell and even he mentioned that might be a good fit for what i'm looking for. what do you think of it? have you used it for cut practice or anything? do you oil it monthly? what are you over all thoughts on that sword from Huanuo?

 

[Blaze Dragon]

Oxtail Saber (Niu Wei Dao)



Liu Ye Dao (Willow leaf saber)



Niuwei Dao is more recent and there are more of them


Some sites you may like

http://www.chinese-swords-guide.com/ancient-chinese-military.html

http://www.chineselongsword.com/

Makes sense, I appreciate it, and yes I love both those sights I've run across them before, still wanted to get input by those who practice with on here as well http://www.chineselongsword.com/ also has a youtube account where they posts examples those are very cool to watch, have you seen any?

 

[Xue Sheng]

I do Dao forms and have found understanding of applications from what I ahve seen and read on Chinese Long Sword