Hi all, new to the site but been training in SKK for about 16 years now. Not sure if everyone else heard this story, but while I was learning Nengli South my instructor told me that these forms were once a two-man set. Flash forward a few years and, having learned both sides, I noticed that North and South (conspicuously) don't match up. I had begun training at a new school and asked another instructor who told me that at one point there had been 4 Nengli forms, North South East and West! The story (as I heard it) was that North and South had been taught at a seminar, and one way or another they never got around to teaching East and West. However, East and West were supposed to compliment North and South. As I learned them, North side is the Tiger and South is the Crane, and presumably East and West were Leopard and Snake. I have been researching this for some time now but have been unable to find any more information about these forms. Recently I was watching another black belt practice the 5 Dragons Face the 4 Winds, and when he did the triple kick part i was immediately reminded of the three retreating bow stances in Nengli South, which made me think that perhaps East and West were not lost but hidden in another form. Whew that went too long, BLUF does anyone out there have any information about these forms? Or can anyone confirm/deny what I have been told?