Lloyd Irvin Rape Case

Makalakumu

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Just want to put a warning out to any folks in the Maryland/Virginia area about Lloyd Irvin. Although he and his team are very successful on the mat, many very disturbing facts have come to light about him and his methods.

http://www.lloydirvinrapeexposed.com/

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/0...ltz-accused-in-new-year-s-eve-rape-83850.html

Ugly stuff. This kind of scandal is so sad, because I want to see martial artists become successful and turn their businesses into big time money. I wish we knew of more people who made it big and were good people.
 

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If BJJ were boxing, is this still a scandal? Not excusing anything, but just changing the perspective.
 

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If BJJ were boxing, is this still a scandal? Not excusing anything, but just changing the perspective.

Yes, but maybe not as big.

In boxing you don't have to have that level of trust you need when you grapple IMHO.
 

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Yes, but maybe not as big.

In boxing you don't have to have that level of trust you need when you grapple IMHO.

That's a good point. Also, I think the standards are higher because of the martial art mythology. In boxing, it's viewed as kind of underworldish by lots of people.
 

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