JKD Ranking

Discussion in 'JKD / Jeet Kune Do' started by Mider1985, Dec 7, 2010.

  1. Mider1985

    Mider1985 Green Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2009
    Messages:
    121
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    18
    My question is to those who have trained under Dan Inosanto

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9RAon5VE1U&feature=related

    Dan Inosanto starts talking about Rank at Minute 4:06

    He makes you go 3 years to learn before you can become an Apprentice instructor, then another 5 to become Associate, then another 4 or five to become a Full instructor and then another 4 or five to become a senior instructor.

    My question is like what do these rankings mean. My question is to those who have actually trained in the Inosanto Academy. If your an aprentice instructor is that like a black belt? If your a senior instructor is that like a grandmaster?

    I know of a few full instructors like

    the owner of ockickboxing.com
    and
    Ron Balicki
    Mark Denny Of the Dog Brothers

    And i know of VERY few Senior instructors
    Rick Faye of Minnisota Kali Group
    and i think Yuri Nakamura
     
  2. Mider1985

    Mider1985 Green Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2009
    Messages:
    121
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Isnt there anyone who trains at the inosanto academy?
     
  3. Thunder Foot

    Thunder Foot Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2006
    Messages:
    391
    Likes Received:
    48
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Location:
    L.A., CA
    They are just names... don't be caught up by them. If you know advanced techniques and you can do them well, the label of your "level" is only that; a label.
     
  4. Yoshin9

    Yoshin9 Yellow Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2010
    Messages:
    31
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Location:
    Nova Scotia
    Well for one, JKD does not have belts! So how else are you going to label stages in training? Also, the basics are within the 3 years and you learn Jun Fan before you learn JKD.

    I train with a Apprentice Instructor who trains with an Associate Instructor who trains when he can with Dan Inosanto and his school.

    So an apprentice is just that, a beginning instructor. An Associate Instructor is like a medium level instructor. A Full Instructor (of which Dan only has a few) is just that, a full instructor that is qualified to teach the whole system, but it doesn't make him the Grand Master, not even Dan would call himself a Grand Master.
     
  5. JayStone

    JayStone White Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2010
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    I don't think there's such thing as a Grandmaster in JKD, I dont think Bruce would've called himself a Grandmaster either. It's something that you never stop learning or perfecting, there's no plateau.
     
  6. ArmorOfGod

    ArmorOfGod Senior Master

    Joined:
    May 31, 2006
    Messages:
    2,031
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    108
    Location:
    North Augusta, SC
    No, but Bruce Lee did award rank with rank certificates, so you can't say he was above giving labels and titles.

    AoG
     
  7. eastnashvillemartialarts

    eastnashvillemartialarts White Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2010
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Location:
    Nashville, TN
    The Certificates Bruce Lee gave out were based upon the amount of time they had been training.
     
  8. thtackett

    thtackett White Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2006
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    3
    When Sifu Dan started giving out certificates he was using the university instructor model:
    Apprentice
    Assistant
    Associate
    Full
     
  9. James Kovacich

    James Kovacich Senior Master

    • LifeTime Supporting Member
    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2002
    Messages:
    2,900
    Likes Received:
    49
    Trophy Points:
    123
    Location:
    San Jose, Ca.
    Thanx Tim.
     
  10. Indie12

    Indie12 Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2011
    Messages:
    270
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Too bad somebody removed the interview...

    In the Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do "ranking" system, you have to have a mandatory 3 years training before 'possibly' being advanced.

    Bruce Lee started using the rank method below:
    Rank:
    -1
    Senior 1
    Jr 1
    -2
    Jr 1
    Senior

    Dan Inosanto added and/or refined the bottom, and added additional time required for advancement.

    Training for 3 years
    Apprentice Instructor 4-5 Years
    Associate/Assistant Instructor 4-5 Years
    Full Instructor 4-5 Years
    Senior Full Instructor 4-5 Years

    Total your looking at about 20+ years to reach Senior Full Instructor. Which is the way it outha be, in my opinion.
     
  11. simplicity

    simplicity Green Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2006
    Messages:
    167
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    Roseville, MI
    Everyone that is a teacher believes in there process of knowledge and I'm cool with it... ;-)
     
  12. James Kovacich

    James Kovacich Senior Master

    • LifeTime Supporting Member
    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2002
    Messages:
    2,900
    Likes Received:
    49
    Trophy Points:
    123
    Location:
    San Jose, Ca.
    Look through the smoke and what do you see? Something to think about... [​IMG]
     
  13. Indie12

    Indie12 Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2011
    Messages:
    270
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Unfortunately!
     
  14. Thunder Foot

    Thunder Foot Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2006
    Messages:
    391
    Likes Received:
    48
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Location:
    L.A., CA
    The rank systems mentioned remind me of a traditional ranking system for a non-traditional way of fighting. I can't understand it. And while I do understand the importance of a system awarding rank, there's alot of people who expend their efforts on trying to gain rank instead of the more important act of honing their raw skill. I'm one to think that such systems may provoke said behavioral patterns... but that's just my 1cent piece.
     
  15. jchristoph1

    jchristoph1 White Belt

    Joined:
    May 5, 2009
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    In all the JKD stuff I've done with Martial Concepts, I never really cared too much about getting rank. I always told my instructor, "Just teach me how to fight." So far, it's been working as long as I keep training!

    If I do ever decide to become an instructor for a school or gym, then I'd be more likely to start caring about certifications and stuff.
     
  16. San Soo Sifu

    San Soo Sifu White Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2007
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Location:
    Salem, Oregon, USA
    From the time Bruce Lee stepped off of the boat in San Francisco, California in April 1959, until his untimely, tragic death on July 20, 1973; is a total of 14 years.

    So, to be fair (and I am being extremely generous in this) and say 14 years of TOTAL teaching time for Bruce Lee, here in the USA.

    And, he was NOT actually teaching that entire time. I am sure if we started deducting time that he initially had NO (zero) students, the time in between moving from San Francisco, CA to --> Seattle, WA to --> Oakland, CA --> to Los Angeles, CA; the time he spent making the Green Hornet (1966-1967) as "Kato," as well as playing "Kato" in three crossover episodes of Batman, the time he spent making television guest appearances: Ironside (1967), Here Come the Brides (1969), Blondie (1969), and in 4 episodes of Longstreet (1971); & movie appearances (Marlowe); the time he spent choreographing fight scenes for "The Wrecking Crew" starring Dean Martin, Sharon Tate, and Chuck Norris (1969); and for the fight choreography for "A Walk in the Spring Rain" starring Ingrid Bergman, and Anthony Quinn (1970); the time he suffered a serious back injury while attempting a good-morning exercise and then he couldn't train (ergo TEACH) for six months, the time he spent making movies in Hong Kong, etc., ...

    ...We would get a far smaller number of actual TEACHING years than the 14 years he spent from arriving in the USA, until his young (32 years old) death.

    The entire Jeet Kune Do curriculum (as taught by the late Bruce Lee) takes far less than 14 years to learn; let alone 20 years.

    However, this is just my well considered opinion. And, opinions are like @_- holes; everyone has one; and they usually stink! :D
     
    Last edited: May 27, 2011
  17. Lee Mainprize

    Lee Mainprize Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2011
    Messages:
    69
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    6
    20 Years to be a senior instructor - about a 5th Dan then.123
     

Share This Page

Search tags for this page
daninosantosrankinjkd
,
inosanto academy ranking structure
,
inosanto kali belt rankings
,
jeet kune do belt ranking system
,
jeet kune do level system
,
jeet kune do ranking
,

jeet kune do ranking system

,
jeet kune do rankings
,

jeet kune do ranks

,
jkd rakink system and period
,

jkd ranking system

,
jkdrankingsystem
,
rank of jeet kune do
,
what is jkd ranking