I believe the video was of one of GM SON's students. I believe they still do the old forms & have nothing to do with Kukkiwon.
But then that goes back to saying CDK is not TKD. It is. A continuation of the original school would be a school that adheres to KKW standards. That is what GM Lee Won-kuk decided on the direction of the school. You may have CDK schools that have not adhered to the Taeguk forms, but the forms they practice are old TKD forms. The only exception to this may be GM Son's CDK school. I do not know if they still practice his forms or if they have shifted to Taeguks by now. It is also why I was asking if the person in the video was part of GM Son's school because I did not recognize that as any Taeguk or Palgue form, though I admit my memory of Palgue forms are very rusty.
Ok a little confused here. But to clarify my linage is from Chung Do Kwan, one of the five original Kwans of Tae Kwon Do. But could you please elaborate to what your are saying about CDK is not Tae Kwon Do???
That's one way to view it. Another way is that the CDK (or MDK or whatever) that is still more than just a social club is the continuation, more or less, of the original school.
I understand what you are saying but I am not talking about GM Hwang Kee and his MDK students. That is an entirely different issue where you have a known split where they either adhere to MDKTSD forms or MDKTKD forms (ie KKW). My statement was entirely about CDK alone. Each kwan have their own history. As far as I know the only split in the the CDK is GM Son who developed his own system entirely. While there were other CDK students who did follow Gen Choi, they were eventually transferred into ODK. If there were other students that broke away form CDK and still claim it and do some non-KKW oriented system, I have not heard of them and would be interested to know about them.GM Hwang Kee might well disagree with you. Your statement is based on the false assumption that schools/styles/kwans never fission. Or is it your assumption that these "splits" are not allowed to use the name of their source? If the last is true, then you must object to the KKW position that MDK is a part of KKW TKD.
If there were other students that broke away form CDK and still claim it and do some non-KKW oriented system, I have not heard of them and would be interested to know about them.
As for the original point of the thread, I suggest the OP hook up with John Pelligrini's Independent Taekwondo Association. They'll certify and promote people without requiring a specific adoption of curriculum. It makes no sense at all to me, but there it is if anyone is interested in such things.
http://www.chungdokwanusa.com/
I have the director's book on forms, which includes many Japanese kata along with a few of the CDK's unique Kuk Mu hyung. If you look on Youtube, you can find Master Hillson performing some forms in a non-KKW style. He's rather good IMO if you don't mind the old ways.
Right, I believe that the Kuk Mu hyung are GM Son's creation and not something that was taught by GM Lee, Won-kuk. GM Son's group is the only splinter group of the CDK that did not keep with KKW forms, that I am aware of.
Nope..nope...like you said...his own forms and system. Plus I believe he is one of those that started in CDK and then became an ODK member later on, prior to starting his own system.Ah, I misread your post.
Does Jhoon Rhee count? Early CDK graduate that has developed his own forms and system.
As for the original point of the thread, I suggest the OP hook up with John Pelligrini's Independent Taekwondo Association. They'll certify and promote people without requiring a specific adoption of curriculum. It makes no sense at all to me, but there it is if anyone is interested in such things.
Nope..nope...like you said...his own forms and system. Plus I believe he is one of those that started in CDK and then became an ODK member later on, prior to starting his own system.![]()
Wow....this guy has a 9th Dan in Hapkido and TKD! LOL!!As for the original point of the thread, I suggest the OP hook up with John Pelligrini's Independent Taekwondo Association. They'll certify and promote people without requiring a specific adoption of curriculum. It makes no sense at all to me, but there it is if anyone is interested in such things.
Wow....this guy has a 9th Dan in Hapkido and TKD! LOL!!
I saw on this website that said he learned Hapkido at a few seminars.
LOL!
Yeah you can do whatever you want with your own association but how creditable are you if you only trained at seminars and claim to be a master?I don't think that is totally true, although he might got his degrees quite fast but so have many others in Hapkido. Mr Pellegrini has his own TKD association and in my eyes he can do whatever he wants with it. He might have 6th or 7th Dan ( or higher ) from Kukkiwon.
As for the original point of the thread, I suggest the OP hook up with John Pelligrini's Independent Taekwondo Association. They'll certify and promote people without requiring a specific adoption of curriculum. It makes no sense at all to me, but there it is if anyone is interested in such things.