Here's a good place to start:sojobow said:Can anyone direct me to a website that list both the lineage of Hattori Hanzo as well as the nationality of his lineage. Particularly looking for the nationality of his "grandfather's" era backward.
So far, this is part of what I found. Any suggestions on what to download to correct the problem. Also, it looks like a grave.Kizaru said:Here's a good place to start:
http://www.m-network.com/sengoku/haka/masanari450h.html
Let us know what you find!
not traditional... maybe general ninjutsu.Don Roley said:Should this not be in the "traditional" section since it deals with stuff as it was in Japan a few hundred years ago?.
That might be the problem. I've read a few sites that said Hattori was actually Chinese; or that his Mother was Chinese, or that both grandparents were Chinese. Just trying to find out the truth regarding another person referencing that there were quite a few Chinese in Japan being members of Ninja Clans.gmunoz said:From what I understand there were about 4 or 5 ninjas that took on and used the name Hanzo Hattori.
sojobow said:That might be the problem. I've read a few sites that said Hattori was actually Chinese; or that his Mother was Chinese, or that both grandparents were Chinese. Just trying to find out the truth regarding another person referencing that there were quite a few Chinese in Japan being members of Ninja Clans.
So far, I've found the same numbers. Also found this link that may add some info.: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/6753/HanzoHattori.htmlgmunoz said:From what I understand there were about 4 or 5 ninjas that took on and used the name Hanzo Hattori.
sojobow said:So far, I've found the same numbers. Also found this link that may add some info.:
I can't speak for ALL Modern (you say Neo), however, I do think it is the other way around. What is with other folk and Japan?Nimravus said:What is it with Neo folk and China? ..
You wrote it, not me, but I'll agree with you there.sojobow said:At least this idiots question has been partially answered
Well, if this is really your purpose I'll make things REALLY easy for you. It's a well known fact that the samurai living during that time period studied "the 7 Military Classics" of China. Ralph D. Sawyer has translated all seven of these texts into English and they are available in one big volume entitled "the 7 Military Classics of Ancient China". All seven of those texts were fairly well known to the samurai before, after and during Hanzo's lifetime. You would probably have an easier time finding the answer to your question by reading Ralph Sawyer's translation rather than asking if "Hanzo's grandparents were Chinese".sojobow said:Actually, the thread question is directed to finding out a warfare technique taught to the Iga and Koga during the time of (dare I say) Hanzo Hattori. The technique was of Chinese origin. ... There were Chinese (from China) in the areas and still imagrating during the time of (dare I say) Hanzo. Thus, they may have taught the 2 Stratagems. Now all I have to find out is how the Strategems work.