Has there ever been showdowns between the tracey system & epk system ?

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  1. Spartan

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    Thanks for the feedback on that girlbug2 & Blindside.
     
  2. KenpoDave

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    Yes, Steve Finn is my instructor.

    As far as visible differences during technique practice, I can tell the difference based on some affectations present in American Kenpo such as large cover out movements. I think that during free-sparring or actual combat, probably not.
     
  3. suicide

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    both systems got techniques i love :ultracool
     
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    Why would the Parker guys want to fight with the Tracy's guys, when the Parker guys, have more than enough desire to fight amongst themselves.
     
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    Ouch...
     
  6. suicide

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    double ouch :shooter:
     
  7. Henry D. Childers

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    Started in Martial Arts in 1964, in the early 1970's I started with Tracy's in Louisville Ky. Had the pleasure of meeting and chatting with Ed Parker in 1978 or 79 been along time . Point is He new my background and we had no problem at all. He was a gentleman and of course so was I. We all come from similar roots. The Kenpo Family is large and from what I've seen is very good and respectful of each other.
    Regards Henry
     
  8. Omar B

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    Showdowns! LOL.

    I remember when I was a kid of about 12 or 13 when all the kids in the area did karate and on Saturdays we used to get together after arriving home from class all keyed up from sparring and beat the crap out of each other. After a while you learn how dumb an idea that is and how many bumps and bruises you get for being stupid.

    Then it became a nice exchange of ideas and techniques. That's what we should be focusing on, not who or what's better, but what makes us all better.
     
  9. KENPOJOE

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    Hi folks!
    Dear Dave,
    I had a similar experience with John Deluca at my studio in Massachusetts years ago and it was a wonderful experience! That and my interviewing Mr. Tracy years ago for my TV show opened many doors for me with the tracys. It led to my attending the gathering of the eagles [where we met!] and being inducted into the kenpo hall of fame & the Yudanshakai [Black Belt Society]. I've also been honored to teach at the event and i'm presently researching the tracy system as well. Mr. Tracy always mentions that the foundation for tracy kenpo is Mr. Parker's system [circa 1950s/60's]and both styles have merit.
    Thanks to "suicide" [you play the TNA wrestling video game?], I now have ELO's "Showdown" running through my head like a rampant earworm!
    BEGOOD,
    KENPOJOE
     
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    Depends upon what you call, "fighting." Most mean sparring which is governed by a set of rules that determine "what" participants may do and be scored for, and as a byproduct, "what" they look like. In fighting, there are distinct differences to most.
     
  11. Danjo

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    Yep. Most sparring is either "kickboxing" or "Karate-tag" and it all starts to look the same after a while. Actual fights are going to look a lot different depending on how you've trained.
     
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    Amen to that brother!!!! I am trying like crazy to bring back some type of "nastiness" to the sparring in my region, beginning with my own school. I have grown tired of to many weaklings muddying up the MA. Time for a change.
     
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    Fascinating! I had absolutely no idea that there could be that much of a gap between hard-core sparring and real fighting. Maybe in a real fight is where a particular art/ style comes alive?
     
  14. Danjo

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    Yep.
     
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    Point tag kukai aside, good karate or ke?po to me means that in self-defense (I can't imagine "fighting") it gets kinda quiet and slow while I'm moving my body my brain and I watch and make appropriate comments on what I'm doing, I mean the conscious brain watches the action like it's a movie and realizes that it isn't running the show. The show for me, in the couple of times it seemed to matter, was over in second or two, with the other guy down. It's more of a matter of limiting the damage and violence.

    Once in a bar a redneck wanted to fight and I said that if we were fighting I'd already have broken my glass and shoved in into his eyes. He looked confused so I offered to buy him a beer and talk about fighting.
     
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    Denver Dojo wars? Tell me more, never heard of this.
     
  17. gardawamtu1

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    As Bruce would say, "the art of fighting without fighting."
     
  18. dianhsuhe

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    2nd what Danjo said...
     
  19. seninoniwashi

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    Well, you could always hold a tournament and encourage people to spar naked… that’d be pretty nasty!
    :uhohh:
     
  20. Danjo

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    Well, that's a little too "Ancient Greece" for my taste. I mean, I know that Pancrase supposedly went from there to India and from India to China etc., but if that's "Old School" then I'll pass.
     
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