M
marshallbd
Guest
What is the First Technique taught to new students in EPAK? And Tracy's System?
OP
marshallbd
Guest
- Thread Starter
- #2
My goal here is to listen to knowledgeable people explain the techniques step by step in order of presentation to students starting at yellow, technique by technique, belt level by belt level.
I would like to see them and compare them EPAK to Tracy's as well...
I would like to see them and compare them EPAK to Tracy's as well...
The first tech I was taught was "Delayed Sword".
phoenix
Yellow Belt
First technique I learned was Delayed Sword. First technique I teach...you guessed it...Delayed Sword.
Sean
OP
marshallbd
Guest
- Thread Starter
- #5
Great, Thanks guys.....
I am very new to Kenpo. Could you please describe the technique step by step.....?
I am very new to Kenpo. Could you please describe the technique step by step.....?
OP
marshallbd
Guest
- Thread Starter
- #6
And then the next....I would like to hear all of the techniques for yellow one at a time
Doc
Senior Master
The first technique I was taught in Kenpo by Parker he called, "Window to the sky."
OP
Trident
Guest
- Thread Starter
- #8
marshallbd -
The Yellow Belt chart in EPAK is as follows:
1. DELAYED SWORD - (Front right hand lapel grab)
2. ALTERNATING MACES - ( Front two hand push )
3. SWORD OF DESTRUCTION - ( Front left roundhouse punch )
4. DEFLECTING HAMMER - ( Front right thrust kick )
5. CAPTURED TWIGS - ( Rear high bear hug - arms pinned )
6. GRASP OF DEATH - ( Left flank right arm headlock )
7. CHECKING THE STORM - ( Front overhead club )
8. MACE OF AGGRESSION - ( Front two hand lapel grab pulling in )
9. ATTACKING MACE - ( Front right step through punch )
10. SWORD AND HAMMER - ( Right flank left hand shoulder grab )
11. INTELLECTUAL DEPARTURE - ( Front right snapping ball kick )
See Mr. Billings' web site (www.kenpo-texas.com) for a complete list of the belt requirements, the techniques themselves, and other useful info.
Mike
The Yellow Belt chart in EPAK is as follows:
1. DELAYED SWORD - (Front right hand lapel grab)
2. ALTERNATING MACES - ( Front two hand push )
3. SWORD OF DESTRUCTION - ( Front left roundhouse punch )
4. DEFLECTING HAMMER - ( Front right thrust kick )
5. CAPTURED TWIGS - ( Rear high bear hug - arms pinned )
6. GRASP OF DEATH - ( Left flank right arm headlock )
7. CHECKING THE STORM - ( Front overhead club )
8. MACE OF AGGRESSION - ( Front two hand lapel grab pulling in )
9. ATTACKING MACE - ( Front right step through punch )
10. SWORD AND HAMMER - ( Right flank left hand shoulder grab )
11. INTELLECTUAL DEPARTURE - ( Front right snapping ball kick )
See Mr. Billings' web site (www.kenpo-texas.com) for a complete list of the belt requirements, the techniques themselves, and other useful info.
Mike
pete
Master Black Belt
the first one i learned was Kimono Grab, and now the first one i teach is Alternating Mace, but only after Stance Set.
you never forget your first time!
you never forget your first time!
Beau,
We use the 10 Tecs for I.K.K.O. Yellow Belt.
1. DELAYED SWORD - (Front right hand lapel grab)
2. ALTERNATING MACES - ( Front two hand push )
3. SWORD OF DESTRUCTION - ( Front left roundhouse punch )
4. DEFLECTING HAMMER - ( Front right thrust kick )
5. CAPTURED TWIGS - ( Rear high bear hug - arms pinned )
6. GRASP OF DEATH - ( Left flank right arm headlock )
7. CHECKING THE STORM - ( Front overhead club )
8. MACE OF AGGRESSION - ( Front two hand lapel grab pulling in )
9. ATTACKING MACE - ( Front right step through punch )
10. SWORD AND HAMMER - ( Right flank left hand shoulder grab )
When you start training with us, you will be expected to learn the first 5 tecs above, the Creed, 6 stances,7 Yellow belt sayings,
7 blocks, 7 punches, 8 strikes, 2 finger tecs, 5 kicks, 3 foot manuevers. Vocabulary, blocking set#1.
Then you are tested for advanced White belt, then to test for Yellow belt, the 2nd 5 tecs, Short form #1 (base and opposite sides) Freestyle Tecs, plus all the material you learned for advance white will be on your yellow belt test.
Then you will proceed to Orange belt material which has 16 tecs.
I understand your quest for material, just letting you know, Each organization and Instructor that is EPAK there may be slight variations in the way the tecs etc. are taught. (We don't include Intellectual Departure in our yellow belt curriculum).
Tess
We use the 10 Tecs for I.K.K.O. Yellow Belt.
1. DELAYED SWORD - (Front right hand lapel grab)
2. ALTERNATING MACES - ( Front two hand push )
3. SWORD OF DESTRUCTION - ( Front left roundhouse punch )
4. DEFLECTING HAMMER - ( Front right thrust kick )
5. CAPTURED TWIGS - ( Rear high bear hug - arms pinned )
6. GRASP OF DEATH - ( Left flank right arm headlock )
7. CHECKING THE STORM - ( Front overhead club )
8. MACE OF AGGRESSION - ( Front two hand lapel grab pulling in )
9. ATTACKING MACE - ( Front right step through punch )
10. SWORD AND HAMMER - ( Right flank left hand shoulder grab )
When you start training with us, you will be expected to learn the first 5 tecs above, the Creed, 6 stances,7 Yellow belt sayings,
7 blocks, 7 punches, 8 strikes, 2 finger tecs, 5 kicks, 3 foot manuevers. Vocabulary, blocking set#1.
Then you are tested for advanced White belt, then to test for Yellow belt, the 2nd 5 tecs, Short form #1 (base and opposite sides) Freestyle Tecs, plus all the material you learned for advance white will be on your yellow belt test.
Then you will proceed to Orange belt material which has 16 tecs.
I understand your quest for material, just letting you know, Each organization and Instructor that is EPAK there may be slight variations in the way the tecs etc. are taught. (We don't include Intellectual Departure in our yellow belt curriculum).
Tess
I teach elbows and knees and rotation, so the first technique the get is Mace of Aggression, but in class it is Delayed Sword.
Chinese Kenpo, we had the old 5 Intro Lessons: Lots of basics, then in the 4th or 5th lesson we did Kimono Grab. Sometimes if the student was advanced enough we did Armlock - Variation A (Locked Wing to me now.)
Brings back fond memories.
-Michael
Chinese Kenpo, we had the old 5 Intro Lessons: Lots of basics, then in the 4th or 5th lesson we did Kimono Grab. Sometimes if the student was advanced enough we did Armlock - Variation A (Locked Wing to me now.)
Brings back fond memories.
-Michael
Doc
Senior Master
"Kimono Grab?" Boy you guys are "old." For the newbies, "kimono grab" became "Lone Kimono" once the commercial art began to take off.
"Window To The Sky" and "Kimono Grab" were taught for mirror images of the same attack. A lapel grab. "Window" became "Delayed Sword" and this shows the "right handed" nature of the techniques the way I was taught. Parker always addressed the left hand differently but never excluded it. Later on in the commercial art he extended "mirror image" to include "techniques on both side" although he never believed in it for his own execution.
"Window To The Sky" and "Kimono Grab" were taught for mirror images of the same attack. A lapel grab. "Window" became "Delayed Sword" and this shows the "right handed" nature of the techniques the way I was taught. Parker always addressed the left hand differently but never excluded it. Later on in the commercial art he extended "mirror image" to include "techniques on both side" although he never believed in it for his own execution.
phoenix
Yellow Belt
Tess,
Wow, you're really getting the memories going here! I haven't even thought about Intellectual Departure in some years. Was a great technique to utilize in freestyle sparring though! Thanks!
Sean
pete
Master Black Belt
Yeah, a big ole kid at heart!
My instructor has kept a lot of the old techs in his system, like Kimono Grab, Passing the Horizon, Windmill Guard, Opening the Fan, etc. We learn all of the new stuff at Brown with the full extensions. I've found it valuable because some of those techniques just haven't been adequately replaced in the new system.
one question though, you mention the "commercial art"... was there a point in the development of the Kenpo System that the system was changed in order to become more marketable? Is this the new system, or EPAK, as opposed to the old Chinese Kenpo system?
OP
marshallbd
Guest
- Thread Starter
- #15
What is Intellectual Departure?
Hey Beau 
The I.K.K.O. Yellow Belt Curriculum was developed for beginning students, and Intellectual Departure was just too sophisticated for that level. I suggest talking to Mr. Conatser for more information regarding this
Tess
The I.K.K.O. Yellow Belt Curriculum was developed for beginning students, and Intellectual Departure was just too sophisticated for that level. I suggest talking to Mr. Conatser for more information regarding this
Tess
Do a search in the general or technical thread on this technique. It was talked about a couple of different times.
OP
marshallbd
Guest
- Thread Starter
- #18
Thanks Tess.....Originally posted by KenpoTess
Hey Beau
The I.K.K.O. Yellow Belt Curriculum was developed for beginning students, and Intellectual Departure was just too sophisticated for that level. I suggest talking to Mr. Conatser for more information regarding this
Tess
It is well documented somewhere in the annuls of MartialTalk and KenpoNet.
Essentially another technique against a right kick, but working with the lead hand to the inside of the leg instead of the outside. It has reverse bows and some timing that makes it a little more difficult at yellow belt, but as noted above, it has great sparring application.
I include it on my yellow charts also, see my web page for description of the technique.
-Michael
Essentially another technique against a right kick, but working with the lead hand to the inside of the leg instead of the outside. It has reverse bows and some timing that makes it a little more difficult at yellow belt, but as noted above, it has great sparring application.
I include it on my yellow charts also, see my web page for description of the technique.
-Michael
don bohrer
Brown Belt
Marshallbd,
I'm in what was known as Traco now (akka). Usually we learn the yellow chart in this order.
Kimono Grab / 2 handed lapel grab or push
Locking the Arm (a-e) / arm lock
Chop to the Right / imminent attack from the right
Opponents at Sides (a-c) / 2 opponent shoulder grab
Dancer / 2 handed choke from behind
don
I'm in what was known as Traco now (akka). Usually we learn the yellow chart in this order.
Kimono Grab / 2 handed lapel grab or push
Locking the Arm (a-e) / arm lock
Chop to the Right / imminent attack from the right
Opponents at Sides (a-c) / 2 opponent shoulder grab
Dancer / 2 handed choke from behind
don
