A post I put on another forum. Hey Gang, Just curious as to how many schools cover self defense, falling and or rolling. I was on another forum and a member who trained at what they said was ITF under UTI in the Netherlands said they dont. Thats OK of course just different to me. I trained both WTF and ITF. I actually did more of it in ITF than my WTF club. Usually not until red or Black Belt but every school of the 4 main ones I studied in the last 25 years did cover basic falling and self defense. I read a lot of what I will call traditional TKD comments here vs newer sport minded and expect a lot of folks do but maybe its me.. Dave O.