Cobra Kai

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  1. Mitlov

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    I enjoyed the second season. As others said, it's fun entertainment, not a super serious life lesson. That said, I thought the tone change at the end of season two was too sudden and too severe.
     
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    Revived zombie thread. I disagree. Johnny gave the soft, entitled students a dose of realism they desperately needed.
     
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    A dose of realism that they needed? kids like Eli had already been getting crap like that at school he has had plenty of realism in that area and then turns up somewhere to learn to protect himself and has an adult bullying him the exact same way....that could easily have caused the kid to contemplate suicide depending on the child. Yes it's a tv show but that id something that is very common that could happen if that were to happen for real
     
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    Johnny is the Sergeant Hartman of the Cobra Kai dojo. He transformed Eli into a confident and strong young man. The limitations that everyone else placed on him was holding him back.
     
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    It isn't a teaching style that agrees with me.
     
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    Actually no...you're totally wrong, he's still just as weak as he was. He's not strong at all. Because he's pretending to be something he's not. Being confident and strong is about being proud of who you are and not caring what people think but he does. He's pretending to not like things that are considered nerdy, he's acting like a moron to be considered cool, he's going against his lifetime friend because he's not considered cool. That's not being strong that's being weak. Just because he has a stupid haircut and acts like a thug that doesn't make him strong. He got turned into a bully because of bad teaching. The kid should've been locked up multiple times, breaking and entering, theft property damage and assault. Do you consider it strength that he stole a ww2 soldiers Medal of Honor?..do you consider that cool or tough?
     
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    Lol you're really triggered over this. :p Are you ok? Need a tissue or a therapy goat? Coloring book? He took a kid afraid of his own shadow and full of self pity and made him bully proof. Kreese turned Hawk into the kid that tore up Danielle's dojo, not Johnny. Under Johnny, Hawk was kicking *** and picking up chicks...something EVERY teenaged boy hoped to do.
     
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    Hawk fight dirty at the end of season one, before Kreese appeared. The transformation was already beginning.

    Johnny meant well but his lessons were not perfect, and Hawk benefited from the confidence, but Hawk overcorrected and became a bully.

    Johnny meant well but is flawed. There were good and bad parts of how he transformed Hawk. It's not a black or white issue, and isn't meant to be.
     

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