Can knife fights be won by simply overpowering an opponent? Can disarms be done with brute strength?

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  1. Bullsherdog

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    Saving Private Ryan's infamous knife fight scene has a German soldier win the clinch fight simply because he overpowers the Ranger guy and with terrifying bloodthirsty patience he simply waits for the knife to slowly push through until it enters through the Ranger's chest. And I must add the Ranger actually even brutally bites the German soldier so hard during the clinch blood splatters from his hand but he still ultimately manages to put the knife through with his horrifying endurance and strength.

    However a fact about this scene that everyone forgets is.......... The whole reason the German soldier was able to stab the Ranger in the first place was because it was the Ranger who pulled out the knife and tried to stab the German. During the groundfight the German while atop him was so strong he manages to let go of one of his hands in the clinch and quickly use it to disarm the knife hand of the Ranger (which the Nazi was holding rather easily like a strong man with his left hand). Basically he was like a strongman who can make you tap out simply by squeezing your arm. Not lying watch the scene on Youtube. The Ranger's knife hand was literally stuck frozen and Nazi guy was also overpowering his empty arm so much that he didn't need to retaliate when he let go of his right hand to literally snatch the knife away from the Ranger's other hand like stealing baby from a candy.

    I am curious in real life knife fights can be decided this way with imply having more endurance and strength and by sheer overpowering?
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Yes
     
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    Danny T Senior Master

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    Yes. Not particularly the best option though.
     
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    Shouldn't Beatrix "Black Mamba" Kiddo have been using her left hand to punch out of her buried coffin in Kill Bill 2? Probably doesn't matter too much...

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    Yes. Of course, the opposite could be true. If fear had not controlled the poor kid the 'fight' would have never happened.

    IF a frog had a clutch they would not jump.;) I could not resist.
     
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    I find her oddly sexy in that scene
     
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    Another nonsense post written in the style of a quora farmer. At least you are consistent.

    This is the most unnecessarily lengthy way of asking the (hopefully rhetorical) question of whether people are stronger than people they are stronger than.

    Assuming you are asking this in earnest..yes...

    People are stronger than people they are stronger than. Also people taller than you are taller than you, and smart people are definitely smarter than you(all of them in fact)
     
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    The face when Blauer used that scene to demonstrate his inside 90degrees, outside 90degrees concept.


    (one of many scenes/scernioros used to demo it)
     
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    You can overpower someone at any time, technique can overpower power, but power and technique is where it's at123
     

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