40 gigabits-per-second Internet Connection!

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I wanna move to Sweden... Holy cow!
Swedish woman gets superfast Internet
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070719/ap_on_hi_te/sweden_high_speed_internet
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STOCKHOLM, Sweden - She is a latecomer to the information superhighway, but 75-year-old Sigbritt Lothberg is now cruising the Internet with a dizzying speed. Lothberg's 40 gigabits-per-second fiber-optic connection in Karlstad is believed to be the fastest residential uplink in the world, Karlstad city officials said.
In less than 2 seconds, Lothberg can download a full-length movie on her home computer — many thousand times faster than most residential connections, said Hafsteinn Jonsson, head of the Karlstad city network unit.
Jonsson and Lothberg's son, Peter, worked together to install the connection.
The speed is reached using a new modulation technique that allows the sending of data between two routers placed up to 1,240 miles apart, without any transponders in between, Jonsson said.
"We wanted to show that that there are no limitations to Internet speed," he said.
Peter Lothberg, who is a networking expert, said he wanted to demonstrate the new technology while providing a computer link for his mother.
"She's a brand-new Internet user," Lothberg said by phone from California, where he lives. "She didn't even have a computer before."
His mother isn't exactly making the most of her high-speed connection. She only uses it to read Web-based newspapers.
So how long do ya'll think it'll take for that type of speed to get set up here to the states?
 
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Only in Sweden!?! Damn, I got all happy when I saw the title of this thread :(
:lfao: Sorry, hope I don't get neg-repped for shattering dreams. But eventually I reckon they'll set it up here... probably be DAMNED expensive at first though.
But help me put it in perspective... I know that T-1 is very fast and T-3 is super fast... how much faster is this over them?
 

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:lfao: Sorry, hope I don't get neg-repped for shattering dreams. But eventually I reckon they'll set it up here... probably be DAMNED expensive at first though.
But help me put it in perspective... I know that T-1 is very fast and T-3 is super fast... how much faster is this over them?

I believe a T1 signal is 1.544 Mbit/s and a T3 carries 28 T1 signals, so somewhere in the vicinity of 44 to 45 Mbit/s. T3 and OC3 are comparable. T is on wire, OC is on fiber. Anything above 3 is on fiber.

Looks like this is OC-768, carries around 39,813.12 Mbit/s

You won't see this in the US, ever, unless you're maybe Bill Gates.
 

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They could do this now....all they have to do is take all the limiters off your existing connection. But they they couldn't charge you extra now could they?
 

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They could do this now....all they have to do is take all the limiters off your existing connection. But they they couldn't charge you extra now could they?

Not under the current infrastructrure.
 

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"We wanted to show that that there are no limitations to Internet speed," he said.


Uh, yeah. :lol: I guess we're all suffering from non-limitations ;)
 
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Originally Posted by Bob Hubbard
They could do this now....all they have to do is take all the limiters off your existing connection. But they they couldn't charge you extra now could they?
Not under the current infrastructrure.
Well the fact that they got limiters on there now and can't charge for the extra kinda sucks doesn't it? I mean ya gotta ask WHY not? How is that helping THEM (the ISP's) if they don't get any extra money off unlimiteds? Will it bog everything down? Or burn servers up?
Inquiring minds want to know.
 

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Well the fact that they got limiters on there now and can't charge for the extra kinda sucks doesn't it? I mean ya gotta ask WHY not? How is that helping THEM (the ISP's) if they don't get any extra money off unlimiteds? Will it bog everything down? Or burn servers up?
Inquiring minds want to know.
I'm sure quite a few porn sites would have to upgrade their servers if customers weren't limited by current speeds... :p
 

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Most LAN's only work at 100 megabits, 1000 on really new ones.

Cat 5e cable is really only good up to 1 gigabit, Cat 6 is iffy at 10 gigabits, Cat6a which is still a work in progress is meant for 10 gigabits (fix the problems with cat 6 at that speed)

So, no, it will be a while before we get it here.

But help me put it in perspective... I know that T-1 is very fast and T-3 is super fast... how much faster is this over them?

T-1's are really not that fast by current standards. Cable and DSL are often faster, but with a T-1 line it is yours, not a shared connection amongst your neighbours. You get that much bandwidth all the time, like a straight line to the internet.

But for perspective, 40 gigabits is about 5 gigabytes. That's just over a full DVD in under a second.

If these speeds do become standard, the idea of home computers being just thin clients running entirely off the internet becomes frighteningly possible :eek:
 

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Most LAN's only work at 100 megabits, 1000 on really new ones.

Cat 5e cable is really only good up to 1 gigabit, Cat 6 is iffy at 10 gigabits, Cat6a which is still a work in progress is meant for 10 gigabits (fix the problems with cat 6 at that speed)

So, no, it will be a while before we get it here.



T-1's are really not that fast by current standards. Cable and DSL are often faster, but with a T-1 line it is yours, not a shared connection amongst your neighbours. You get that much bandwidth all the time, like a straight line to the internet.

But for perspective, 40 gigabits is about 5 gigabytes. That's just over a full DVD in under a second.

If these speeds do become standard, the idea of home computers being just thin clients running entirely off the internet becomes frighteningly possible :eek:

Great info ... as a little side note on T1s ... they are as fast up as they are down, unlike cable and DSL. Examples are ...

T1 is 1.544 download, 1.544 upload (set speed)
DSL/cable = 1.544 download, 384 upload (these speeds vary, but the difference remains)

So T1 lines are still fairly popular if you want to host your own website.

Also, prices are drastically different ... examples (ballpark)
DSL/Cable: $50 per mo
T1: $500 per mo
T3: $2,000 per mo
OC48: $60,000 per mo
I can't even guess what an OC-768 might cost. It's not so much the cost of the fiber, it's the cost of the electronics.
 

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One other odd thing, no home computer would be able to even come close to being able to use that sort of speed. Hard drive wouldn't even come close to being able to keep up.

Even top end SCSI drives don't get anywhere near that speed...

So what on earth would she do with it? What server could she connect to that would be able to send her data at that speed?
 

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One other odd thing, no home computer would be able to even come close to being able to use that sort of speed. Hard drive wouldn't even come close to being able to keep up.

Even top end SCSI drives don't get anywhere near that speed...

So what on earth would she do with it? What server could she connect to that would be able to send her data at that speed?

There ya go, end of 'whynots' ... the end-user world isn't ready for it
 

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Thanks for that guys. After working 2 outages tonight, I really wasn't up for another telecom discussion. :D
 

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