To Win or Not to Lose?

[Wing Woo Gar]

You are right.

- For striking art, step 2 may not be that important. You just want to land your fist on your opponent's face.
- For grappling art, step 2 is the most important part. You want to control your opponent's leading arm.

I may want to seal the lead arm for striking purposes as well as grappling. Neither is right or wrong.

 

[marvin8]

You also don't see "overhead" throw used in MMA either because the gloves.

MMA gloves are fingerless. Arm drag, seio nage and other trips and throws have been seen.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

MMA gloves are fingerless. Arm drag, seio nage and other trips and throws have been seen.

I don’t use fingers to trap. MMA gloves are still meaty on the back and cover the palm. It can be done, but the appropriate analogy would be “ballet in combat boots.”

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

MMA gloves are fingerless. Arm drag, seio nage and other trips and throws have been seen.

Nothing in this video to get excited about. I’m trying to imagine why it’s even pertinent to your argument.

 

[marvin8]

Nothing in this video to get excited about. I’m trying to imagine why it’s even pertinent to your argument.

I am acknowledging and replying to KFW not an argument.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

I am acknowledging and replying to KFW not an argument.

Not argument in a bad sense. I’m trying to understand your point in reference to the op.

 

[marvin8]

Not argument in a bad sense. I’m trying to understand your point in reference to the op.

My discussion on the OP include posts #8, 19, 36. Also, I replied to wherever the discussion went.

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

You can get this same effect without the second step. Throw your punch 1/3 or 1/2 way. The opponent will tense and maybe get a block started. Stopping it short for a half-second will cause him to relax. Then you continue the punch, catching the opponent off-guard. This is called "stuttering" in Parker's kenpo. Also works very well with a front kick. I've landed those many times, setting it up with a full front kick or two.

Is boxing dodging better than Karate blocking, or the other way around?

When you

- dodge your opponent's punch, your opponent will punch you again.
- block/control/hurt your opponent's punch, your opponent may not be able to punch you again. There are a lot of advantages to establish "arm contact".

Some people make fun of "chasing arm". If you pull your opponent's arm, his body will follow. If you allow your opponent's arms to be free, his arms will punch you.