Royce Gracie vs Jason DeLucia
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evenflow1121
2nd Black Belt
that is a very interesting clip. Funny, I was at the gym this past Tuesday finishing my ab work out when all of a sudden I hear this one guy mention Royce Gracie to his friend and that Royce could not hit worth anything for a better word, I wish that dude would have seen this clip before he opted to talk....
I may be mistaken, but I believe that Jason DeLucia was/is a member of MT.
From that clip it looks like Royce was not happy with Jason.
I wonder what lead up to that. Maybe Jason can shed some
light on it. One thing is for sure you need to have a ground
game!
Brian R. VanCise
www.instinctiveresponsetraining.com
I wonder what lead up to that. Maybe Jason can shed some
light on it. One thing is for sure you need to have a ground
game!
Brian R. VanCise
www.instinctiveresponsetraining.com
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I could be wrong about this, but I seem to remember reading that they fought twice that day. The first time Jason got tapped real quick, the second Royce decided to hurt him a little so there wouldn't be any doubt that it was over.
Still, got to give him credit for stepping up and going for it, then for adapting his skills afterwards. After his loss to Royce in UFC 2 he went on to a very respectable Pancrase career in Japan. (Record 33 - 20 - 1 )
Still, got to give him credit for stepping up and going for it, then for adapting his skills afterwards. After his loss to Royce in UFC 2 he went on to a very respectable Pancrase career in Japan. (Record 33 - 20 - 1 )
Kembudo-Kai Kempoka
Senior Master
WilliamJ said:
Spot on. He could'nt afford the plane ticket out, so Rorion picked up the tab. Jason was sure the first time that he could have done something differently. Rorion always likes to give folks that second and third chance.
I was there for many of the Gracie Challenges, and to Jason's credit, he was the first guy to give Royce a shiner. That's, incidentally, what got under Royces skin. So he got him in a mounted triangle to control him and challenge his fuel, then submitted him by punching, rather than blood or air. And, yes...Royce did hit like a girl in the early days. Just not a lot of people out there who were willing to say it to his face, then deal.
Regards,
Dave
scottcatchot
Green Belt
Great clip. What is everyones thoughts on the upcoming Royce and Matt Hughes fight. If there is another thread on this I am sorry, just asking off the top of my head.
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I think that will be a interesting one, I see gracie getting slammed. Then either tapping him from bottom or getting ground and pounded.
Hughes definately has the age and strength advantage, but Gracie has fought MUCH bigger and stronger guys so I don't think that will be as much of an issue.
We also know that Royce can take one hell of a beating and still pull out a win in the end. I don't think he'll get KOed or tap, if it goes to the judges Hughes will likely get it, providing Hughes can avoid tapping before the end.
Hughes definately has the age and strength advantage, but Gracie has fought MUCH bigger and stronger guys so I don't think that will be as much of an issue.
We also know that Royce can take one hell of a beating and still pull out a win in the end. I don't think he'll get KOed or tap, if it goes to the judges Hughes will likely get it, providing Hughes can avoid tapping before the end.
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Jason DeLucia
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Kembudo-Kai Kempoka said:
yes in those days ,but watching him with sakuraba shows he's grown immensely .and him with tokoro even more so .i've prayed for a fight with royce where he would stand up with me and we could have at it .i think it would be beautiful .we both have grown into two very different animals than we were before .
Jason DeLucia said:
How, exactly, has your experience with Royce altered your martial arts journey? Was your experience with bjj exactly as they hyped it in the video, or was it different?
Kembudo-Kai Kempoka
Senior Master
Jason DeLucia said:
Personally, I think Royce's clear advantage (then) was his ground skills. In the Torrance academy, and in the UFC you rematched in, I'm quite sure you were a better upright fighter than Royce. I haven't been plugged in to the MMA scene in quite awhile (return to med school with it's demands; starting a practice with it's demands, etc...not nearly enough time for fun), so I've not seen Royces fights you mentioned above.
He has always been a natural; threw a rear spinning crescent one day goofing off, and it was as pretty as any Korean masters kick. I would love to see where his boxing has taken him. It would also be a kick to see where your athleticism and determination have taken you, both on the ground, and on your feet. I think a K-1 type bout between the two of you would be a hard one...I suspect it would only be a moment or so before either of you shot. Hard habit to break; like not using your feet in a slapping match after spending years kickboxing.
Please, do post if anything like this comes up; I'd love to see it.
Best Regards,
Dave
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Jason DeLucia
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the core of our kung fu ethos was related strongly to competitive san shou in that we trained to do standing with throws to the ground .as a sportive martial art it has been handed down for centuries .and to this day i love it the most .but popular demand is nhb styled .that royce was a mat work specialist and made no play at standup showed me that a fight could be confined to the ground .these days i like the axiom take to fighting in any capacity they try to take you .it makes the event more real in the purist sense in that the two men agree to do their utmost to win within the rules and not be tentative or cautious but take the chance with the next available move .to flow like snakes mating as it were .upnorthkyosa said:
