Looking for advice on a SPM/Bak Mei club in Central Europe

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Hi everyone,

I'm mostly a judo person, but I decided a little bit ago it'd be fun to go back and relearn a striking art. During my beginning search for clubs around me, I stumbled across a Bak Mei/SPM school ( V羸uka bojov矇ho umn穩 | Bakmei.cz | Czechia | Lukas Slavicek HAKKA KUNG ) here in Prague, CZ a few weeks ago. And curiosity is killing this cat, as they say. How does this club's gungfu look to people with some training in it? I've got some experience with CMA (mostly shuai jiao and taiji from a couple of Dr. Brian Wu's old students when I was a young idiot in Chicago) and lots of experience with judo and western boxing, but I've never really studied any of other CMAs, especially the southern fists.

I'm also intrigued that they seem to spar and have more full-contact drills than the CMA clubs I knew did 15-20 years ago.

I'm not looking to start a lineage war or anything. Just looking to get some perspective on whether or not this school has something worth sinking the time and money into.

Alternately, if anyone has any recommended teachers for this area, I'd be all ears-- especially shuai jiao or other short-range arts.
 

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I cannot comment directly about the school or system, but I think it is worth exploring. Please let us know what you discover.
 

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Go try it. Jon Barbary in Paris is another Futsan Bak Mei practitioner as well. They're going to fight. It's what they do. Expect contact and a very physical environment.
 
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Go try it. Jon Barbary in Paris is another Futsan Bak Mei practitioner as well. They're going to fight. It's what they do. Expect contact and a very physical environment.
That's very reassuring to hear! I've seen good things written about Barbary, but as I said, I don't have a whole lot of experience with the CMA scene outside of the shuai jiao people (who have been great and very open) and the judo community in the US and Czech Republic, so it's hard for me to get a read on other styles.

I cannot comment directly about the school or system, but I think it is worth exploring. Please let us know what you discover.

I'm leaving for the US for the holidays, but I'll keep people posted how it goes when I get back. I'm looking forward to doing a bit more striking after years of grappling, so I'm tentatively very excited.
 

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Hi everyone,

I'm mostly a judo person, but I decided a little bit ago it'd be fun to go back and relearn a striking art. During my beginning search for clubs around me, I stumbled across a Bak Mei/SPM school ( V羸uka bojov矇ho umn穩 | Bakmei.cz | Czechia | Lukas Slavicek HAKKA KUNG ) here in Prague, CZ a few weeks ago. And curiosity is killing this cat, as they say. How does this club's gungfu look to people with some training in it? I've got some experience with CMA (mostly shuai jiao and taiji from a couple of Dr. Brian Wu's old students when I was a young idiot in Chicago) and lots of experience with judo and western boxing, but I've never really studied any of other CMAs, especially the southern fists.

I'm also intrigued that they seem to spar and have more full-contact drills than the CMA clubs I knew did 15-20 years ago.

I'm not looking to start a lineage war or anything. Just looking to get some perspective on whether or not this school has something worth sinking the time and money into.

Alternately, if anyone has any recommended teachers for this area, I'd be all ears-- especially shuai jiao or other short-range arts.
Ju Ga Mantis???

If it's a real 勗振 school, and I was stuck in Prague, I would go there just to meet people.

There's no video on their website.
 

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I stand corrected, but this not a great example of actual training, it's more of a homage to The Transporter that the school participated in.

The school instructor "Kung Fu Fanda" shows off some moves around 5m in.

 
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I stand corrected, but this not a great example of actual training, it's more of a homage to The Transporter that the school participated in.

The school instructor "Kung Fu Fanda" shows off some moves around 5m in.


Yeah, I haven't seen a lot of things on their webpage, but they've got a few videos up on Instagram and youtube. It looks like the instructor trained along side of Jonathan Barbary, which I find intriguing. (He also mentions studying a bit of shuai jiao which I'm always a fan of.)

There's also this interview in Czech (if you can read Czech, like me) the sifu did with the Practical Hung Kyun people here in Prague who have a good rep locally:


I haven't heard back from them about training, but with the pandemic and my upcoming return to the States, I haven't really pushed the issue.
 

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the Practical Hung Kyun people here in Prague who have a good rep locally:
That's a great school and endorsement.

From what I can tell instructor Lukas has a big mixed bag of styles, but all seem to be legit as far as lineage. Like the Practical Hung Kyun club, these groups tend to take the arts seriously, including the san shou, weight training, etc.

The instructor is also pretty fit. That's always a good sign they're up to at least par on their practice.
 
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That's a great school and endorsement.

From what I can tell instructor Lukas has a big mixed bag of styles, but all seem to be legit as far as lineage. Like the Practical Hung Kyun club, these groups tend to take the arts seriously, including the san shou, weight training, etc.

The instructor is also pretty fit. That's always a good sign they're up to at least par on their practice.

Vy jste taky pra鱉獺k? If so, we should go get a beer when I get back :)

Yeah, Pavel Macek has quite the reputation, and lots of his students are beasts. I did some kettlebell training with a bunch of them a few years back to get ready for a few grappling tournaments and those guys are real serious about their conditioning. I think the PHK guys also help with the Hakka club's camps and things, so that is also promising. I like it when different styles encourage learning.

And I haven't really seen much of the SPM stuff at all, besides flashbacks to the SPM / Bak Mei lineage wars on the old kung fu message boards of the early 2000s. But, I'm intrigued because it seems like there's a lot I can use in both of these arts.
 
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